[pacman-dev] [GIT] pacman branch, master now at v3.0.0-419-g012f793

Nagy Gabor ngaba at bibl.u-szeged.hu
Mon Sep 24 07:19:58 EDT 2007


>     Add sync044 pactest : A dependency induces a replacement.
>     
>     That is the problem mentioned by Nagy there (with suggestions for fixing
> it) :
>     http://www.archlinux.org/pipermail/pacman-dev/2007-August/009082.html
>     
>     If a dependency conflicts with a local package and has to replace it,
>     the PM_SYNC_TYPE_DEPEND information is lost, and the resulting install
>     reason is wrong (the package is marked as explictly installed).
>     
>     Signed-off-by: Chantry Xavier <shiningxc at gmail.com>
> 
Well, this should be fixed with
http://www.archlinux.org/pipermail/pacman-dev/2007-September/009271.html
Please follow the thread, and let me know your -U and -S opinion (there are 2
different ways: the Vmiklos-way and the ~Arch-way). If I get enough feedback, I
will implement your choice.
My opinion:
-%REASON% should show the _initial_ reason (which is computed after the _first_
install of the package), and later -S/-U will keep this reason (without
examining that this is a pulled dependency, or listed in the target list by
user) [this is the ~Arch way]: I prefer this, because [1.] if the user don't
want to update his whole system with -Su (because he has low-bandwidth net for
example), he can update a dependency (by doing "pacman -S dependency") without
change its reason field to explicit; [2.] and unneeded dependency->explicit
conversion may prevent pacman from orphan detection (can happen in Vmiklos-way)
and missing dependency->explicit conversion just may list some extra orphan
packages (can happen in ~Arch-way); [3.] explicit is the "final"/irreversible
state of a package
-IMHO we need an ability to change the reason fields in localdb /whatever you
choose/, because users may want to mark/unmark their "important" packages (and
pacman's automatism is unpredictable ;-)

Bye, ngaba

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