[pacman-dev] [translation] Problems with DE-version

Matthias Gorissen matthias at archlinux.de
Thu Aug 7 11:03:05 EDT 2008

So version 3.2.0 went to [core], and upon the next -Syu, pacman greeted me 
with the following message:

:: pacman hat eine neuere Version von sich selbst gefunden.
:: Möchtest du die momentan Handlung abbrechen
:: und die neue pacman Version installieren? [Y/n]y

WTF??? This is anything but German! Style and taste aside, there are at least 
three serious errors: 

1. Pacman uses a colloquial form to address its user - this is logically 
inconsistent. All the rest of the De-translations use a more formal one (just 
to avoid ambivalent meanings - it is not about formality/politeness).
2. "momentan" should be "momentane" - it sounds like an "ery annoying error" 
in English.
3. [Y/n] should be [J/n]. If you type "y", pacman gets updated with all the 
other packages - not in before.

Of course, I don't want to blame anyone in particular here. There is no-one to 
blame but me - I should have held these files under much closer surveillance. 
I was quite sure, however, that I had purged these lines, and that the 
changes were merged. So this an "ery annyoing error" indeed.

For the sake of interest, this error was originally introduced here:

I didn't find any indication that this went over the ML (where I would have 
seen/checked it). Maybe a private mail to Dan? - I dunno, but it should not 
have been accepted this way.

I thought I had cleaned up the entire issue here (but maybe I was wrong):
This one was merged, so I don't see why the the older version keeps popping 

I have provided another patch here:
This one may not have been merged, but hey - there are at least 20 people 
subscribed to this who can checkout git-repos retrospectively 10 times better 
than I can, aren't they?

So I'll write a patch for 3.2.1 (maybe this evening, if I stay sober enough). 
But despite my own short-comings, I wonder about organization. Maybe we could 
figure out a way to avoid such mistakes in the future.

Best regards,

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