On 2016-08-17 21:20, Sébastien Luttringer wrote:
Even without my question on IRC, you at least got out-of-date notification and Florian's message about rotten packages. I see Florian message (good initiative btw). It makes me review my flagged
On mer., 2016-08-17 at 21:35 +0200, Bartłomiej Piotrowski wrote: packages and be happy to not have "more than one year" flagged packages. It has remembered me that I have Ceph to update. I decided after that to prioritize packaging updates over devops in the next weeks in order to fix this (one package).
There is also a bug report stating that package is unusable, created in February. The jerasure code was not enabled in this package. It never works, the rest of ceph yes. I've 300 hypervisors running Arch with this version. I see no big deal.
Is that really not enough? Enough for what? If you really wanna help me, you just talk to me and offer your help, but you don't send a rocket on the public list.
«Seb, I think we are providing a bad user experience to not updating Ceph since so long» would be a better approach. I get a user offering his help by mail few days ago about docker 1.12. A stranger, not a guy I work with like you. Moreover, I got the same issue with e2fsprogs (not a package like ceph used by few braves) recently. Package was not updated since ~1 year and it prevented me from upgrading my raid array to 30TB. I sent a nice mail to the maintainer and asked him if I can upgrade the package. He was ok. I did it[1]. End of story.
This kind of threat is inappropriate.
Lack of communication on your side is inappropriate. If there is a good reason not to upgrade a package, put that information somewhere, instead of letting it decay.
I don't see much communication about why packages are not updated. Why are you asking me think others don't do? Why are you targeting me where is this so much package more out-of-date ? You sent a resignation mail 1 year and half ago, since then I never see you as active and not communication about that. That's lack of communication. I'm spending enough hours by week to works on that projet to not have to receive this kind of direct attack. I say it again, this kind of threat are not acceptable between us. Please never do that again. [1] https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/commit/trunk?h=packages/e2f sprogs&id=0da897c5e716cd201fc31307991cf875c2c90abd -- Sébastien "Seblu" Luttringer https://seblu.net | Twitter: @seblu42 GPG: 0x2072D77A