Hm. Your words are sounding more polite. True. But don't you get the same feeling that some of our developers lost their interest/time in maintaining packages? Some were even hired to do other jobs. Who else should do it? We had a decision to not give away the packaging process to the community. So we have too do it our best. I just don't want to fall back into the time when Jan, Tobias and me were doing the majority of packaging almost alone again. And now we have to take about two architectures. Let's spread it over all our shoulders. Let's improve our infrastructure step by step but don't forget our daily work of packaging. We have become famous for our good compromise of bleading edge and quality. We should try to keep this alive. We also have to find a way to maintain essential packages we cannot drop nobody wants to maintain. Any suggestion? One possible way it to force a dev to also maintain all dependencies for his packages. But what about the rest? Thoughts? Andy