Hey all, Just an FYI -- we came across some minor nags in testing last night with udev containing rules that it couldn't support (due to a missing systemd-sysctl binary). After some nagging from Tom, we decided that it was best to simply merge the udev and systemd-tools packages together. There's a few reasons for this: - systemd-tools is meant to be a package that everyone can benefit from (regardless of PID 1) - everyone will eventually have systemd-tools installed anyways, as initscripts will be using it - lower maintenance for the PKGBUILD. It's getting ugly with all the splitting and juggling required. systemd-tools doesn't yet belong to the base group, but I'll fix this today with some other minor changes to the package. Dave "What's in a name? That which we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet."