As we noticed from the filesystem thread ( I rule ) that I tested the initscripts out this morning. I ran into a lot of retarded problems for simple reasons, udev 118-2 should depend on the new initscripts and the new initscripts should depend on netcfg. Let's watch what happened! # pacman -Syu # updated to new [testing] reboot % ping google.com # no response! % sudo /etc/rc.d/network restart # restarts, but doesn't ask for the menu? % vim /etc/rc.conf /etc/rc.conf.pacnew # rename the variable correctly % sudo /etc/rc.d/network restart # restarts, but still doesn't ask for the menu? % sudo pacman -U /var/cache/pacman/pkg/initscripts-2007.11-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz % sudo /etc/rc.d/network restart # asks menu, connects, yippie kay-yay! <.. > computer use % reboot Bad superblock on /dev/sda4? bad superblock on /dev/sda2? # ls /dev console null zero Udev didn't restart correctly because I was running the old initscripts with the new udev, and the new udev gets rid of /etc/start_udev (which is fine) except that the new udev REQUIRES the new initscripts to work. Get on the phone with Aaron, he helps me figure this hoopla out. pacman -S initscripts netcfg And now were at the present and me writing this email. Add the netcfg dependency to initscripts, and the initscripts>=2008.02-1 to udev 118, and I'm happy. // jeff -- . : [ + carpe diem totus tuus + ] : .