Hello everybody, First of all, the following mail has nothing to do with the last two TU applications, it's a general view on the current TU application process. I would like to propose a new process for TU applications due to several reasons: 1. I have the feeling that most sponsors are not aware of the responsibility of sponsoring a new TU candidate. There is more to do than just approving their application. Candidates should get advice for and after the application process. This includes: * learning how to sign mails * getting feedback for their PKGBUILDs from their sponsoree * getting advice for building packages correctly via makechrootpkg wrappers * getting help for the post-application-process, when the candidate has been accepted. * directing the new candidates to our IRC channels or mailinglist for community intergration. 2. I have the feeling that most TUs only vote, because of our new stricter bylaws. 3. I miss more TU contribution in TU application processes as well. I guess the reasons for the points above are missing time or missing mood for actively participating in the discussion. Therefore I would like to suggest some modifications to our TU application process. Here are some ideas from a discussion we had last night in the TU IRC channel: 1. Establishing a TU council, that get elected a certain time slot. The members of this council are responsible for accepting or rejecting a TU. Every TU can still sponsor or suggest a candidate, but the voting process will be done in this council only. The council should consist out of very active TUs and devs, who are known for a good package quality. 2. Establishing a 2-sponsors-rule instead of the current policy of one sponsor. 3. <your suggestion here> Best regards from Germany chris / shibumi