Hi guys, just thought I'll let you know that the vi/vim/gvim layout will change again. After some slightly heated discussion and some thinking, I came to the conclusion that we could benefit from some different layout. I'll spare you all the reasons, here is some reading if you are really into it: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/13109 http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/13239 http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/13240 The new layout is pretty much settled: nvi/core, provides vi,ex and view binary, really tiny vim/extra, only perl support, provides runtime, no X, no whistles gvim/extra, perl,python+ruby and gtk2, depends on vim, replaces the vim binary(as symlink) on install so your terminal vim is more powerful Benefits: - changes of (n)vi in core don't stall vim updates in extra - no vi runtime in core cuts down the install size (about 8MB compressed, 28 deflated) - we have a truely lightweight vim, it's something people really seem to want things left to figure out: I really, really hope the gvim package provides a binary that can be started as vim and runs in a terminal on a computer with no X/gtk2 installed ... I doubt it though. The reason is that I like to provide a fully scriptable vim for sysadmins that requires no X/GTK. Otherwise I could build the vim package with perl AND python support. It's not a big deal but it bumps the binary size from 1.5 MB to 4.5 ... that pretty big. Thoughts, opinions, complaints? -T