[arch-dev-public] Encoding issues - gmail?
Hey guys, I wanted to know if I screwed this up, or if it's just gmail. When Francois commits something, gmail displays the cedilla funny: On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:19 AM, François Charette <francois@archlinux.org> wrote: In case it shows up fine for you, it appears to be Fran(A with a thing over it)(double S section marker thing)ois This name is pulled from /etc/passwd, so I have a feeling if it IS screwed up, it may be a problem with how I entered it in that file. Can anyone see it properly? Is it an encoding/font issue with my browser, or a problem in /etc/passwd ?
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey guys, I wanted to know if I screwed this up, or if it's just gmail. When Francois commits something, gmail displays the cedilla funny:
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:19 AM, François Charette <francois@archlinux.org> wrote:
I see it messed up too (above and in his original commit messages). While I can't say it isn't due to the /etc/passwd file, I do recall seeing a Gmail support thread or FAQ about problematic formatting like this so it could be a Gmail issue.
2008/11/7, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com>:
Can anyone see it properly? Is it an encoding/font issue with my browser, or a problem in /etc/passwd ?
I see it messed up too. -- Arch Linux Developer (voidnull) AUR & Pacman Italian Translations Microdia Developer http://www.archlinux.it
2008/11/7, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com>:
Is it an encoding/font issue with my browser, or a problem in /etc/passwd ?
I think that it isn't an encoding/font issue with your browser. -- Arch Linux Developer (voidnull) AUR & Pacman Italian Translations Microdia Developer http://www.archlinux.it
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Giovanni Scafora <linuxmania@gmail.com> wrote:
2008/11/7, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com>:
Is it an encoding/font issue with my browser, or a problem in /etc/passwd ?
I think that it isn't an encoding/font issue with your browser.
Hmm for now I switched it in /etc/passwd to "Francois" because that's better than nothing. Is there a better solution that anyone can think of?
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Giovanni Scafora <linuxmania@gmail.com> wrote:
2008/11/7, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com>:
Is it an encoding/font issue with my browser, or a problem in /etc/passwd ?
I think that it isn't an encoding/font issue with your browser.
Hmm for now I switched it in /etc/passwd to "Francois" because that's better than nothing. Is there a better solution that anyone can think of?
What was the encoding on /etc/passwd? I would say flip-flop it to whatever it wasn't (e.g. ASCII vs. UTF-8). -Dan
Aaron Griffin schrieb:
Hey guys, I wanted to know if I screwed this up, or if it's just gmail. When Francois commits something, gmail displays the cedilla funny:
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:19 AM, François Charette <francois@archlinux.org> wrote:
In case it shows up fine for you, it appears to be Fran(A with a thing over it)(double S section marker thing)ois
This name is pulled from /etc/passwd, so I have a feeling if it IS screwed up, it may be a problem with how I entered it in that file.
Can anyone see it properly? Is it an encoding/font issue with my browser, or a problem in /etc/passwd ?
Basically, everything should be done in UTF8 nowadays. However, it also has to be ensured that you have UTF8 enabled when reading the commit message and that whatever sends the mails specifies UTF8 as charset in the header. BTW, I'd like to have the ä in my last name in my passwd entry please :)
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Thomas Bächler <thomas@archlinux.org> wrote:
Aaron Griffin schrieb:
Hey guys, I wanted to know if I screwed this up, or if it's just gmail. When Francois commits something, gmail displays the cedilla funny:
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:19 AM, François Charette <francois@archlinux.org> wrote:
In case it shows up fine for you, it appears to be Fran(A with a thing over it)(double S section marker thing)ois
This name is pulled from /etc/passwd, so I have a feeling if it IS screwed up, it may be a problem with how I entered it in that file.
Can anyone see it properly? Is it an encoding/font issue with my browser, or a problem in /etc/passwd ?
Basically, everything should be done in UTF8 nowadays. However, it also has to be ensured that you have UTF8 enabled when reading the commit message and that whatever sends the mails specifies UTF8 as charset in the header. BTW, I'd like to have the ä in my last name in my passwd entry please :)
Done. Commit something and lets see if we break it. It could also be the svnlog script... It says something in the comments about UTF-8. I'm going to add some arguments to force the sending charset to utf-8 Thomas, would you mind committing something to test?
Aaron Griffin a écrit :
Hey guys, I wanted to know if I screwed this up, or if it's just gmail. When Francois commits something, gmail displays the cedilla funny:
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:19 AM, François Charette <francois@archlinux.org> wrote:
In case it shows up fine for you, it appears to be Fran(A with a thing over it)(double S section marker thing)ois
This is UTF8 wrongly interpreted as ISO-8859-1. ç [Atilde + Section sign] correspond to the two bytes representing ccedilla in UTF8... (0xC3 0xA7).
This name is pulled from /etc/passwd, so I have a feeling if it IS screwed up, it may be a problem with how I entered it in that file.
Can anyone see it properly? Is it an encoding/font issue with my browser, or a problem in /etc/passwd ?
My name thus appears be correctly encoded as UTF8 in /etc/passwd but gmail or your browser somehow reads it as Latin-1. It reminds me of the (prehistoric) days when I got my very first email account at university, ca 1992. In those days email servers would strip off the 8th bit of messages written with an 8bit-encoding, so something in French like "André va à l'école" would come off as "Andri va ` l'icole". F
Firmicus wrote:
Aaron Griffin a écrit :
Hey guys, I wanted to know if I screwed this up, or if it's just gmail. When Francois commits something, gmail displays the cedilla funny:
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:19 AM, François Charette <francois@archlinux.org> wrote:
In case it shows up fine for you, it appears to be Fran(A with a thing over it)(double S section marker thing)ois
This is UTF8 wrongly interpreted as ISO-8859-1. ç [Atilde + Section sign] correspond to the two bytes representing ccedilla in UTF8... (0xC3 0xA7).
This name is pulled from /etc/passwd, so I have a feeling if it IS screwed up, it may be a problem with how I entered it in that file.
Can anyone see it properly? Is it an encoding/font issue with my browser, or a problem in /etc/passwd ?
My name thus appears be correctly encoded as UTF8 in /etc/passwd but gmail or your browser somehow reads it as Latin-1.
It reminds me of the (prehistoric) days when I got my very first email account at university, ca 1992. In those days email servers would strip off the 8th bit of messages written with an 8bit-encoding, so something in French like "André va à l'école" would come off as "Andri va ` l'icole".
F
As the only (and much derided) hotmail user around here, I'd like to point out that everything is fine for me :) Allan
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Allan McRae <allan@archlinux.org> wrote:
As the only (and much derided) hotmail user around here, I'd like to point out that everything is fine for me :)
Allan
*points finger while snickering*
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Firmicus <Firmicus@gmx.net> wrote:
Aaron Griffin a écrit :
Hey guys, I wanted to know if I screwed this up, or if it's just gmail. When Francois commits something, gmail displays the cedilla funny:
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:19 AM, François Charette <francois@archlinux.org> wrote:
In case it shows up fine for you, it appears to be Fran(A with a thing over it)(double S section marker thing)ois
This is UTF8 wrongly interpreted as ISO-8859-1. ç [Atilde + Section sign] correspond to the two bytes representing ccedilla in UTF8... (0xC3 0xA7).
This name is pulled from /etc/passwd, so I have a feeling if it IS screwed up, it may be a problem with how I entered it in that file.
Can anyone see it properly? Is it an encoding/font issue with my browser, or a problem in /etc/passwd ?
My name thus appears be correctly encoded as UTF8 in /etc/passwd but gmail or your browser somehow reads it as Latin-1.
It reminds me of the (prehistoric) days when I got my very first email account at university, ca 1992. In those days email servers would strip off the 8th bit of messages written with an 8bit-encoding, so something in French like "André va à l'école" would come off as "Andri va ` l'icole".
I have a feeling this may be svnlog being lame. I added a header to force it to utf-8 text, so we'll see if that works out. I just need either you or thomas to commit something 8)
On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 11:27 -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote:
Hey guys, I wanted to know if I screwed this up, or if it's just gmail. When Francois commits something, gmail displays the cedilla funny:
My mailserver does 8bit munging, so his name shows up as FranXXois. Headers, and thus the from address, should always be 7bit encoded. There's some RFC around that describes using Base64 with some encoding to get UTF8 in 7bit headers.
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Jan de Groot <jan@jgc.homeip.net> wrote:
On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 11:27 -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote:
Hey guys, I wanted to know if I screwed this up, or if it's just gmail. When Francois commits something, gmail displays the cedilla funny:
My mailserver does 8bit munging, so his name shows up as FranXXois. Headers, and thus the from address, should always be 7bit encoded. There's some RFC around that describes using Base64 with some encoding to get UTF8 in 7bit headers.
Alright, had to patch svnlog, but I believe this is fixed. Now we grab the passwd entry, decode it as utf8, then encode it in MIME QuotedPrintable format as =?UTF-8?Q?<encoded name>?= I think it works, I will send a sample commit now (note my encoded A's in my name)
2008/11/7, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com>:
I think it works, I will send a sample commit now (note my encoded A's in my name)
I see Ååron Griffin. -- Arch Linux Developer (voidnull) AUR & Pacman Italian Translations Microdia Developer http://www.archlinux.it
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 7:29 PM, Giovanni Scafora <linuxmania@gmail.com> wrote:
2008/11/7, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com>:
I think it works, I will send a sample commit now (note my encoded A's in my name)
I see Ååron Griffin.
Yeah - I did that on purpose to test. Hooray! OK, now does anyone else besides Thomas and François need different chars?
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008, Aaron Griffin wrote:
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 7:29 PM, Giovanni Scafora <linuxmania@gmail.com> wrote:
2008/11/7, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com>:
I think it works, I will send a sample commit now (note my encoded A's in my name)
I see Ååron Griffin.
Yeah - I did that on purpose to test. Hooray! OK, now does anyone else besides Thomas and François need different chars?
As you are asking, an accent in my last name: Bélanger Also, do the change on the web site if it's not fixed in the pending website update: http://www.archlinux.org/developers/#EricB -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 7:47 PM, Eric Belanger <belanger@astro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008, Aaron Griffin wrote:
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 7:29 PM, Giovanni Scafora <linuxmania@gmail.com> wrote:
2008/11/7, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com>:
I think it works, I will send a sample commit now (note my encoded A's in my name)
I see Ååron Griffin.
Yeah - I did that on purpose to test. Hooray! OK, now does anyone else besides Thomas and François need different chars?
As you are asking, an accent in my last name: Bélanger
Also, do the change on the web site if it's not fixed in the pending website update: http://www.archlinux.org/developers/#EricB
Both done
On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 20:19 -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote:
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 7:47 PM, Eric Belanger <belanger@astro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008, Aaron Griffin wrote:
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 7:29 PM, Giovanni Scafora <linuxmania@gmail.com> wrote:
2008/11/7, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com>:
I think it works, I will send a sample commit now (note my encoded A's in my name)
I see Ååron Griffin.
Yeah - I did that on purpose to test. Hooray! OK, now does anyone else besides Thomas and François need different chars?
As you are asking, an accent in my last name: Bélanger
Also, do the change on the web site if it's not fixed in the pending website update: http://www.archlinux.org/developers/#EricB
Both done
My last name is Piché although I'm not bothered if it's left off. I often get some interesting pronounciation from telemarketers. -- K. Piché <kpiche@rogers.com>
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 8:17 PM, K. Piche <kpiche@rogers.com> wrote:
On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 20:19 -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote:
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 7:47 PM, Eric Belanger <belanger@astro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008, Aaron Griffin wrote:
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 7:29 PM, Giovanni Scafora <linuxmania@gmail.com> wrote:
2008/11/7, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com>:
I think it works, I will send a sample commit now (note my encoded A's in my name)
I see Ååron Griffin.
Yeah - I did that on purpose to test. Hooray! OK, now does anyone else besides Thomas and François need different chars?
As you are asking, an accent in my last name: Bélanger
Also, do the change on the web site if it's not fixed in the pending website update: http://www.archlinux.org/developers/#EricB
Both done
My last name is Piché although I'm not bothered if it's left off. I often get some interesting pronounciation from telemarketers.
Done, Mr Pee-shay
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 10:43 -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote:
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 8:17 PM, K. Piche <kpiche@rogers.com> wrote:
On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 20:19 -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote:
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 7:47 PM, Eric Belanger <belanger@astro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008, Aaron Griffin wrote:
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 7:29 PM, Giovanni Scafora <linuxmania@gmail.com> wrote:
2008/11/7, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com>: > > I think it works, I will send a sample commit now (note my encoded A's > in my name)
I see Ååron Griffin.
Yeah - I did that on purpose to test. Hooray! OK, now does anyone else besides Thomas and François need different chars?
As you are asking, an accent in my last name: Bélanger
Also, do the change on the web site if it's not fixed in the pending website update: http://www.archlinux.org/developers/#EricB
Both done
My last name is Piché although I'm not bothered if it's left off. I often get some interesting pronounciation from telemarketers.
Done, Mr Pee-shay
Excellently done! The best is when someone called me Karven Pitcher. I was rather shocked that they had mispronounce my first name.
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:21 PM, K. Piche <kpiche@rogers.com> wrote:
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 10:43 -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote:
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 8:17 PM, K. Piche <kpiche@rogers.com> wrote:
On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 20:19 -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote:
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 7:47 PM, Eric Belanger <belanger@astro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008, Aaron Griffin wrote:
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 7:29 PM, Giovanni Scafora <linuxmania@gmail.com> wrote: > > 2008/11/7, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com>: >> >> I think it works, I will send a sample commit now (note my encoded A's >> in my name) > > I see Ååron Griffin.
Yeah - I did that on purpose to test. Hooray! OK, now does anyone else besides Thomas and François need different chars?
As you are asking, an accent in my last name: Bélanger
Also, do the change on the web site if it's not fixed in the pending website update: http://www.archlinux.org/developers/#EricB
Both done
My last name is Piché although I'm not bothered if it's left off. I often get some interesting pronounciation from telemarketers.
Done, Mr Pee-shay
Excellently done! The best is when someone called me Karven Pitcher. I was rather shocked that they had mispronounce my first name.
I typically get "Mr Griffith". Though once I got Grissin, which made me laugh
participants (10)
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Aaron Griffin
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Allan McRae
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Dan McGee
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Eric Belanger
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Firmicus
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Giovanni Scafora
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Jan de Groot
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K. Piche
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Thayer Williams
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Thomas Bächler