On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Nilesh Govindarajan <lists@itech7.com> wrote:
On 06/27/2010 10:29 PM, Tobias Powalowski wrote:
Am Sonntag 27 Juni 2010 schrieb Dieter Plaetinck:
On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 18:16:58 +0800
Ray Rashif<schivmeister@gmail.com> wrote:
On 27 June 2010 17:35, Dieter Plaetinck<dieter@plaetinck.be> wrote:
So, what? we better include ppp and not wvdial?
No, it will definitely help if it's included - you just have to make an exception and try to fit it in with the rest of the packages in src/core/pkg (ppp is already part of base, whereas wvdial is in extra). Perhaps a request to bring it into core in light of cases like this?
Then probably we should move wvdial to core just like ie. pppoe stuff is in core, no need for a special exceptions. And then we'd include it in the package list for archiso. Having it in /src/core/pkg on the iso will be a good sideeffect, not a primary goal. I suggest someone who is into this stuff takes over, because I don't really know what i'm talking about.
Dieter
Why to have a second app for dialing in core if ppp can handle already this stuff?
Just my 2 cents. greetings tpowa
PPP can be configured to dial, but one needs to be a super geek I think. As I told you earlier, here in India, wvdial is supported officially, because it automatically detects the required settings. Change Username, Password and Phone Number. That's all, and you can have latest packages if you do an FTP install.
so it's just not clear _how_ to do it via ppp? if that's the case i'd say the info should be clarified/added to beginners guide and official installation guide, esp. the official since thats on any install disk. from beginners guide: [core] The simple principle behind [core] is to provide only one of each necessary tool for a base Arch Linux system; The GNU toolchain, the Linux kernel, one editor, one command line browser, etc. (There are a few exceptions to this. For instance, both vi and nano are provided, allowing the user to choose one or both.) not that everything is set in stone, ie. nano/vi, but if the problem is just a lack of documentation/understanding then we should just fix that. i have never needed to dial up (only ever had broadband), but the instructions there seem rather easy? C Anthony