On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Pablo Lezaeta Reyes <prflr88@gmail.com> wrote:
On 02/25/2015 04:33 PM, Pablo Lezaeta Reyes wrote:
* Hi all, *>>>>>>* Version 2.0.0 of the LightDM GTK greeter was released about week ago. *>>>* This release drops GTK2 support. *>>>>*> That's ironic, Xfce recommend lightdm as DM for the gtk2 theme, and the *>*> upcomimng xfce-gtk-engine 3.1 drop gtk3 support. *>*> *> From what I saw, it didn't drop it. It just disabled it by default, which makes sense given that the desktop is GTK+2 only and they don't want to unnecessary pull in the gtk+3 dep only for the engine.
3.1.0 taged http://git.xfce.org/xfce/gtk-xfce-engine/tree/NEWS
verbatim from the news: "Gtk+-3 support has been stopped"
I asume they keep it but they stop supporting so I think unles a patch that fix all the themes emerge wldly, will be better drop xfce3-gtk-engine or the entire xfce-gtk-engine, but that mostly prove that they not support gtk3, drop gtk2-greeter will render without a wai to use a gtk2 only environment since lxdm is mostly no-more-maintained and is better have a greeter than a binary unsupported.
Also xfce4 recomend greybird as theme for xfce if someone need a gtk2-gtk3 theme
* Therefore I propose to rename the current "lightdm-gtk3-greeter" into *>>>* "lightdm-gtk-greeter" and drop the legacy "lightdm-gtk2-greeter" to AUR. *>*> looking oxygen keep the gtk3 in AUR gtk3 only themes tend to use gtk3 and *>*> gtk2 only thend to use gtk or gtk2, I will preffer keep the 3 in the name. *>>*> I could keep "lightdm-gtk2-greeter" around for a while in [community] if *>>*> some people want me to (I'm thinking people using MATE for example, *>>*> but it's going towards GTK3 anyway), but keep in mind that you can use *>>>* LXDM instead if you really need a GTK2 display manager. *>*> Or Xfce4 users, the upcoming xfce4 release is gtk2, and only after that the *>*> migration to gtk3 will start. *>*> so a gtk2-greeter will be apreciated until xfce drop gtk2, and dont forget *>*> that LXDM is now presumably unmaintained or in low maintainance since they *>*> migrate to QT *>>>>>*> If there aren't any objections by the end of the week, I'll proceed with my *>>*> proposal. *>>>>*> Me *>*> *>>>* Cheers, *>>
tldr; I will go for keep gtk2-greeter for xfce4 user since lxdm is semi-unmaintained and better a unmaintained theme that a binary. someone know if slim keep working with systemd, last time was buggy or not start or not let thing start at all (like logind)
-- *Pablo Lezaeta*
LXDM is a different story because AFAIK it hasn't been officially abandonned, whereas the LightDM GTK2 greeter has, meaning I essentially become upstream if I continue to package it. Anyone is free to keep maintining it in AUR though, it won't be lost into oblivion. Also, as Ralf mentioned, even for a GTK2 desktop, the GTK3 greeter will work just fine if you can live with a few more megabytes. As for the change of name, we always try to follow upstream's naming, the GTK2 drop is a good opportunity to abide by that. FTR nearly all other distros have had a single "lightdm-gtk-greeter" package for a while now, providing only the GTK3 greeter even when GTK2 was still an option. Since a lot less people than I expected seem to object, I pushed 2.0.0 in [community-testing] for now, please give it a spin. Cheers, -- Maxime