On Monday 26 October 2009 13:34:43 and regarding:
I disagree. The problems (at least from my perspective) stems from the KDE devs' decision to "start fresh" with all their apps in order to "simplify" them and/or apply their new philosophy/approach of desktop GUI design to them.
That decision resulted in them dumping loads of features from out of their apps - features that many KDE3 users liked and relied on. The result has been a less-useful and less-productive GUI.
So really more of a problem with fundamental design decisions, IMO, than with their programming framework.
From that perspective I completely agree. Konqueror is the perfect example. An elegant, very functional file manager (wannabe browser) that was packed with tons of advanced features with a -->very<-- efficient UI (from a minimal mouse-click/keystroke standpoint) with proper focus control that was completely thrown out and redone based on the new untried and untested dolphin engine. That has been a complete fiasco and left kde with a substandard file manager that has no ability to place focus without using a 2-part ctrl+click (with the cutsie green plus markers turned off) The fish fiasco followed, and we could go on and on (162 bugs filed in the past 4 months alone...) My purpose of commenting on the framework comes from all of the problems the one-size-fits-all primary widget has caused getting things working correctly. Probably 1/4 of the bugs above are from misconfigured parts of the window widget that wipe out data if a change is made to a dialog, or those that don't retain path settings, etc. So I guess when you take a working desktop and throw it out the window and then start over with an overly complex framework -- you have probably just signed up to shoot yourself in the foot :p -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com