On 04/19/2017 06:32 PM, Dragon ryu via arch-general wrote:
2017/04/20 午前8:30 "ITwrx.org" firstname.lastname@example.org:
i'm a little concerned about arch's overall health and i was wondering if there's anything we can do about it.
why am i concerned?
Many users tested to demonstrate that PIE would not cause an undue performance burden but it has still not been implemented due to dev's lack of time. Now said dev is also resigning from packaging due to it becoming a chore. Is PIE on the menu of the adopter of those packages?
There are also many official packages that have been out of date for a while. At least one of the devs seems to have too many packages to maintain. Probably because packages were orphaned and someone had to pick up the slack. There are probably many packages in aur that should be moved to official if there were devs who had time to deal with them. There are probably some bugs that need to be fixed too. Maybe we can use some % of donations to pay a dev/devs? Can we modernize the donations system? I sent a message to SPI's web dev email asking about improvements to project's pages but i haven't heard back.
IMHO, a general donate method doesn't cut it. Crowd funding should demonstrate clearly that people will donate much more when they have input and can see goals, progress, etc. Donors and devs should be able to designate goals (devs could have approval/veto power) and/or donors should be able to donate towards approved goals. It would be nice if we could fund developers or maybe just a rewards pool where devs get some appreciation money each month. Crypto currency could be an option. Devs could choose what they want to receive. If nothing else, maybe we could crypto tip individually or to an Arch address. Some way to make arch development more practical for people. I know in the past arch devs have said roughly that "he who does the dev makes the decisions" but maybe us users can buy our way in just enough to influence the speed or goals of the distro's dev? It doesn't seem like the current state of things can keep up with threats, new features, etc. I think i am not alone in being willing to pitch in money, when i can, to make it easier or more worthwhile for devs, new or current. At least we could see what the current funding levels for goals were so we would know if more needs to be done. Some other distros have large corps that can foot the bill to get things done. I'm sure Arch could use some help too, even if we already have donation funds for infrastructure needs.
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Wait, actual question is about PIE? If you find that package are outdated in community or extra, file a bug rep. Why not do it?
no, PIE is just one of the examples i listed of symptoms of a larger issue that i thought might could be helped by paying devs and modernizing the donation system. why would i file a bug for an out of date package? i'm sure the developer is notified when a package is flagged? why should i pester them to update it?