Hello, Ever since the upgrade to KDE 4.7 several weeks ago, a lot of programs seem to hang in the Task Manager after I close them. They will remain for a long time or until I open another application. I also have an occasional application crash when I shutdown. Unfortunately, the crash message tells me nothing of what program is crashing and I'm not sure if it's related. My question for everyone is regarding the programs hanging around since it's a regular thing and is most likely the cause of the latter. Is this a common thing or do I have some conflict somewhere, or a service that isn't happy? I run pacman -Suy almost daily and use Firefox, Thunderbird, Kopete, Yakuake, VirtualBox, Terminal, Kwrite, and BOINC on a regular bases. I put my system to sleep nightly and shutdown at the end of the week. DAEMONS=(syslog-ng dbus network !netfs crond alsa @cupsd @boinc @samba). I hope that's enough info. Thank you -- Yesterday is history. Tomorrow is a mystery. Today is a gift. That's why its called the present. Headmaster Squall :: The Wired/Section-9 Close the world txen eht nepo $3R14L 3XP3R1M3NT$ #L41N http://twitter.com/headmastersqual