On 12/28/2011 10:16 PM, Oon-Ee Ng wrote:
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Steve Holmessteve.email@example.com wrote:
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 11:18:33AM +0000, Paul Gideon Dann wrote:
Seriously? It's comments like this that make me wonder if subscribing to this list is really worth it. At least you did go on to provide some useful information, albeit in a "if I MUST stoop down to your level" kind of tone.
My suggestion is: (a) stop whining; or (b) learn how to code and cut out all sound stuff out of gnome-settings-daemon. No matter what you choose, there is one more option, which is much better: GET OUTTA HERE and use Debian if you like it so much. Not right? Then buy a Mac. Or Windows if you want to. PERIOD.
Wow. I'm truly mortified that the Linux world is associated with behaviour like yours. What gives you the right to talk like that to *anyone*, let alone someone who came to us for help?
I've sure seen my share of rude and discurtius answers tonight. I understand if the discussion drags on and yes, Ralph was given some constructive answers about gnome and its dependencies. And yes, Ralph needs to except the reasoning about upstream designs outside of Arch's control. but still, the put-downs are quite unnecessary as far as I'm concerned.
Both the initial mail and the put-downs, would you agree? The problem with these sort of 'questions' is how they keep cropping up. Not just talking about pulseaudio, but the whole 'Arch is supposed to be this because I believe it' stuff is tiresome.
At least here you dont get the insane amount of spam like on debian boards and people here want to help even if in a rude tone. And most dont get offended here easily if someone miss speaks or does not fully grasp the English language. Debian boards are the reason I switched to Arch and while yes it a whole new world and way of thinking some just are slower to adopt that most of the issues can be solved on the wiki. Tiresome or not its the way of life on boards there is always good and bad. Though I still dont grasp if reading a message gets you so pissy you have to resort to high school antics you probably should not be responding to that message. If its a repeated question why not either no one respond which would force the person to research on their own or just send one message to check the wiki and or other pertinent place where the info has been said numerous times. I am on gumstix board as well and thats how they roll, stupid question or one thats commonly asked and answered tons of times just get ignored or someone takes 2 seconds to say hey read the wiki or search the archives of this board question has been answered.
Just my .02 from a recent Arch convert.