On 08/05/14 05:01 PM, Nowaker wrote:
This is not a rant against Arch or its devs and community, but against systemd; the sad facts speak for themselves.
This is a rant against the Arch devs and the Arch community. Several of the developers and several people involved with the community are systemd developers, and there is certainly consensus among the Arch developers and trusted users to use systemd.
This sounds really bad. Ranting against systemd should never be taken as ranting against Arch in general or some specific Arch developers. After all, Arch Linux is a Linux distribution, not a systemd distribution. ;) Systemd was chosen for some important reasons, I support this decision, but it shouldn't be considered a holy grail. The holy grail is pacman, and anyone who rants against pacman rants against Arch devs and community! ;-)
Some of the Arch developers are pacman developers, and others are systemd developers. Both projects are part of the base install and are a significant part of the distributions flavour. The msys2 project uses pacman on Windows, so it's not really any more specific to Arch than systemd. Bashing an open-source project and spreading FUD about it is always an attack on the open-source community, whether it's GNOME, systemd, KDE, PHP, or something else. It's one thing to take a rational look at a project and criticize it, and quite another to promote content accusing the developers of having bad faith without *any* evidence.