Re: [arch-general] Switching betweenX and TTY freezes WM

John Briggs

11 Jun 2012 11 Jun '12

12:18 a.m.

On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 07:35:45AM +0800, 逸冰欧阳 wrote:

I also have the same problem. And remember that Ubuntu, Fedora work well, so I wonder whether it is a bug. On Jun 11, 2012 4:21 AM, "Mateusz Loskot" wrote:

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On 10 June 2012 20:35, Sébastien le Preste de Vauban wrote:

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El 10/06/12 14:11, Mateusz Loskot escribió:

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On 10 June 2012 19:03, Javier Vasquez wrote:

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On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Mateusz Loskot wrote:

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I have been observing strange issues when I switch between X and TTY. [...]

I started noticing this same thing since last year (though don't remember when exactly). Never asked cause the work around is simple, the TTY from which startx was run is considered "dead" to me, I just don't use it once in X.

Yes, you are right it's not a very disturbing issue. I was just curious if it is known problem and perhaps there is a solution.

I have a similar problem:

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47277

Nice one, I'm going to subscribe to this issue. Thanks!

Best regards, -- Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net

What bug? The TTY running X is busy running the xinit/xsession process, until you kill that process you shouldn't be able to get the command line prompt to run another program. The only way to overcome this shortcoming would be to run xinit in the background, which I wouldn't reccomend. Regards John

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Sébastien le Preste de Vauban

11 Jun 11 Jun

12:30 a.m.

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El 10/06/12 20:18, John Briggs escribió:

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On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 07:35:45AM +0800, 逸冰欧阳 wrote:

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I also have the same problem. And remember that Ubuntu, Fedora work well, so I wonder whether it is a bug. On Jun 11, 2012 4:21 AM, "Mateusz Loskot" wrote:

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On 10 June 2012 20:35, Sébastien le Preste de Vauban wrote:

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El 10/06/12 14:11, Mateusz Loskot escribió:

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On 10 June 2012 19:03, Javier Vasquez wrote:

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On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Mateusz Loskot wrote: > I have been observing strange issues when I switch between X and TTY. > [...] I started noticing this same thing since last year (though don't remember when exactly). Never asked cause the work around is simple, the TTY from which startx was run is considered "dead" to me, I just don't use it once in X. Yes, you are right it's not a very disturbing issue. I was just curious if it is known problem and perhaps there is a solution. I have a similar problem:

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47277 Nice one, I'm going to subscribe to this issue. Thanks!

Best regards, -- Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net

What bug? The TTY running X is busy running the xinit/xsession process, until you kill that process you shouldn't be able to get the command line prompt to run another program. The only way to overcome this shortcoming would be to run xinit in the background, which I wouldn't reccomend.

Regards

John

Well it happens to me with any TTY, not just the one running X.

Don deJuan

12:35 a.m.

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On 06/10/2012 05:30 PM, Sébastien le Preste de Vauban wrote:

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El 10/06/12 20:18, John Briggs escribió:

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On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 07:35:45AM +0800, 逸冰欧阳 wrote:

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I also have the same problem. And remember that Ubuntu, Fedora work well, so I wonder whether it is a bug. On Jun 11, 2012 4:21 AM, "Mateusz Loskot" wrote:

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On 10 June 2012 20:35, Sébastien le Preste de Vauban wrote:

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El 10/06/12 14:11, Mateusz Loskot escribió:

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On 10 June 2012 19:03, Javier Vasquez wrote: > On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Mateusz Loskot > > wrote: >> I have been observing strange issues when I switch between X and >> TTY. >> [...] > I started noticing this same thing since last year (though don't > remember when exactly). Never asked cause the work around is > simple, > the TTY from which startx was run is considered "dead" to me, I just > don't use it once in X. Yes, you are right it's not a very disturbing issue. I was just curious if it is known problem and perhaps there is a solution. I have a similar problem:

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47277 Nice one, I'm going to subscribe to this issue. Thanks!

Best regards, -- Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net

What bug? The TTY running X is busy running the xinit/xsession process, until you kill that process you shouldn't be able to get the command line prompt to run another program. The only way to overcome this shortcoming would be to run xinit in the background, which I wouldn't reccomend.

Regards

John

Well it happens to me with any TTY, not just the one running X.

Same here, I thought everyone had stated it is switching to any TTY from X or from some other TTY back to X and this will occur.

Mateusz Loskot

12:48 a.m.

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On 11 June 2012 01:35, Don deJuan wrote:

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On 06/10/2012 05:30 PM, Sébastien le Preste de Vauban wrote:

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El 10/06/12 20:18, John Briggs escribió:

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What bug? The TTY running X is busy running the xinit/xsession process, until you kill that process you shouldn't be able to get the command line prompt to run another program. The only way to overcome this shortcoming would be to run xinit in the background, which I wouldn't reccomend.

Well it happens to me with any TTY, not just the one running X.

Same here, I thought everyone had stated it is switching to any TTY from X or from some other TTY back to X and this will occur.

Perhaps it's a random random nature of this issue, that makes it occur for me only when I interact with TTY from which I run xinit. Best regards, -- Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net

Sébastien le Preste de Vauban

3:54 a.m.

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El 10/06/12 20:35, Don deJuan escribió:

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On 06/10/2012 05:30 PM, Sébastien le Preste de Vauban wrote:

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El 10/06/12 20:18, John Briggs escribió:

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I also have the same problem. And remember that Ubuntu, Fedora work well, so I wonder whether it is a bug. On Jun 11, 2012 4:21 AM, "Mateusz Loskot" wrote:

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On 10 June 2012 20:35, Sébastien le Preste de Vauban wrote:

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El 10/06/12 14:11, Mateusz Loskot escribió: > On 10 June 2012 19:03, Javier Vasquez > wrote: >> On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Mateusz Loskot >> >> wrote: >>> I have been observing strange issues when I switch between X and >>> TTY. >>> [...] >> I started noticing this same thing since last year (though don't >> remember when exactly). Never asked cause the work around is >> simple, >> the TTY from which startx was run is considered "dead" to me, I >> just >> don't use it once in X. > Yes, you are right it's not a very disturbing issue. > I was just curious if it is known problem and perhaps there is a solution. I have a similar problem:

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47277 Nice one, I'm going to subscribe to this issue. Thanks!

Best regards, -- Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net

What bug? The TTY running X is busy running the xinit/xsession process, until you kill that process you shouldn't be able to get the command line

On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 07:35:45AM +0800, 逸冰欧阳 wrote: prompt to run another program. The only way to overcome this shortcoming would be to run xinit in the background, which I wouldn't reccomend.

Regards

John

Well it happens to me with any TTY, not just the one running X.

Same here, I thought everyone had stated it is switching to any TTY from X or from some other TTY back to X and this will occur.

I suggest people being affected by this issue to reply to the bug report in https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47277 so we get upstream attention.

Sudaraka Wijesinghe

12:51 a.m.

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On 06/11/12 06:00, Sébastien le Preste de Vauban wrote:

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El 10/06/12 20:18, John Briggs escribió:

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On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 07:35:45AM +0800, 逸冰欧阳 wrote:

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I also have the same problem. And remember that Ubuntu, Fedora work well, so I wonder whether it is a bug. On Jun 11, 2012 4:21 AM, "Mateusz Loskot" wrote:

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On 10 June 2012 20:35, Sébastien le Preste de Vauban wrote:

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El 10/06/12 14:11, Mateusz Loskot escribió:

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On 10 June 2012 19:03, Javier Vasquez wrote: > On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Mateusz Loskot > > wrote: >> I have been observing strange issues when I switch between X and >> TTY. >> [...] > I started noticing this same thing since last year (though don't > remember when exactly). Never asked cause the work around is > simple, > the TTY from which startx was run is considered "dead" to me, I just > don't use it once in X. Yes, you are right it's not a very disturbing issue. I was just curious if it is known problem and perhaps there is a solution. I have a similar problem:

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47277 Nice one, I'm going to subscribe to this issue. Thanks!

Best regards, -- Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net

What bug? The TTY running X is busy running the xinit/xsession process, until you kill that process you shouldn't be able to get the command line prompt to run another program. The only way to overcome this shortcoming would be to run xinit in the background, which I wouldn't reccomend.

Regards

John

Well it happens to me with any TTY, not just the one running X.

I haven't experienced this issue, but then I don't switch TTY that often. I was just wondering if some of the scenarios mentioned in here is due to the Left vs Right ALT key usage. (It has to be Left ALT if anyone didn't know)

Mateusz Loskot

12:49 a.m.

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On 11 June 2012 01:51, Sudaraka Wijesinghe wrote:

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On 06/11/12 06:00, Sébastien le Preste de Vauban wrote:

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El 10/06/12 20:18, John Briggs escribió:

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On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 07:35:45AM +0800, 逸冰欧阳 wrote:

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I also have the same problem. And remember that Ubuntu, Fedora work well, so I wonder whether it is a bug. On Jun 11, 2012 4:21 AM, "Mateusz Loskot" wrote:

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On 10 June 2012 20:35, Sébastien le Preste de Vauban wrote:

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El 10/06/12 14:11, Mateusz Loskot escribió: > On 10 June 2012 19:03, Javier Vasquez > wrote: >> On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Mateusz Loskot >> >> wrote: >>> I have been observing strange issues when I switch between X and >>> TTY. >>> [...] >> I started noticing this same thing since last year (though don't >> remember when exactly). Never asked cause the work around is >> simple, >> the TTY from which startx was run is considered "dead" to me, I just >> don't use it once in X. > Yes, you are right it's not a very disturbing issue. > I was just curious if it is known problem and perhaps there is a solution. I have a similar problem:

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47277 Nice one, I'm going to subscribe to this issue. Thanks!

Best regards, -- Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net

What bug? The TTY running X is busy running the xinit/xsession process, until you kill that process you shouldn't be able to get the command line prompt to run another program. The only way to overcome this shortcoming would be to run xinit in the background, which I wouldn't reccomend.

Regards

John

Well it happens to me with any TTY, not just the one running X.

I haven't experienced this issue, but then I don't switch TTY that often.

I was just wondering if some of the scenarios mentioned in here is due to the Left vs Right ALT key usage. (It has to be Left ALT if anyone didn't know)

I do left ALT only. Also, in i3wm I use winkey as the modifier key, not the left ALT. Best regards, -- Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net

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