[arch-general] Keyboard's keymap now changed since evdev upgrade
Hey all, I say I'm pretty comfortable with everything in arch now, but this keyboard issue is starting to drive me nuts. Not too long ago, the change from using kbd to evdev was made and ever since then, my keyboard is all messed up. I can still use my keyboard, but specific keys are changed around. Looking around, everyone is refering to issues with KDEMod, but I'm using Gnome and using the Evdev-Managed Keyboard. I specified in my 10-keymap.fdi rule file the proper settings and updated my xorg.conf with no change. The real issue I have is my arrow keys don't work anymore (except for the up arrow is giving me the ScreenCap window) and using xev, the keys are bringing back keycodes for other events. Which is making it REALLY hard to work with vi and just working with the command line in general. Am I actually going to have to re-key all my keycodes by hand? or is there a way to find out what's going on and properly set my key events? Thanks, Will
On Sat, 2008-12-06 at 17:45 -0400, Will Siddall wrote:
Hey all, I say I'm pretty comfortable with everything in arch now, but this keyboard issue is starting to drive me nuts. Not too long ago, the change from using kbd to evdev was made and ever since then, my keyboard is all messed up. I can still use my keyboard, but specific keys are changed around.
Looking around, everyone is refering to issues with KDEMod, but I'm using Gnome and using the Evdev-Managed Keyboard. I specified in my 10-keymap.fdi rule file the proper settings and updated my xorg.conf with no change.
The real issue I have is my arrow keys don't work anymore (except for the up arrow is giving me the ScreenCap window) and using xev, the keys are bringing back keycodes for other events. Which is making it REALLY hard to work with vi and just working with the command line in general.
Am I actually going to have to re-key all my keycodes by hand? or is there a way to find out what's going on and properly set my key events?
Upgrade to xorg-server 1.5.3-3 and set your keyboard in KDE to "evdev managed keyboard" or something similiar. Setting it to a specific other model that matches your keyboard will mess up keybindings when using evdev.
Right, but I'm not using KDE, I'm using Gnome. I've tried using an Evdev-managed keyboard, and I've tried using a generic pc105... all with no luck. Plus, I've already upgraded to 1.5.3-3. On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Jan de Groot <jan@jgc.homeip.net> wrote:
On Sat, 2008-12-06 at 17:45 -0400, Will Siddall wrote:
Hey all, I say I'm pretty comfortable with everything in arch now, but this keyboard issue is starting to drive me nuts. Not too long ago, the change from using kbd to evdev was made and ever since then, my keyboard is all messed up. I can still use my keyboard, but specific keys are changed around.
Looking around, everyone is refering to issues with KDEMod, but I'm using Gnome and using the Evdev-Managed Keyboard. I specified in my 10-keymap.fdi rule file the proper settings and updated my xorg.conf with no change.
The real issue I have is my arrow keys don't work anymore (except for the up arrow is giving me the ScreenCap window) and using xev, the keys are bringing back keycodes for other events. Which is making it REALLY hard to work with vi and just working with the command line in general.
Am I actually going to have to re-key all my keycodes by hand? or is there a way to find out what's going on and properly set my key events?
Upgrade to xorg-server 1.5.3-3 and set your keyboard in KDE to "evdev managed keyboard" or something similiar. Setting it to a specific other model that matches your keyboard will mess up keybindings when using evdev.
Alright, so getting tired of having to deal with it, I remapped everything. It took a while and keep reloading my Xmodmap file to get what I needed. At least it works :D On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Will Siddall <will.siddall@gmail.com> wrote:
Right, but I'm not using KDE, I'm using Gnome. I've tried using an Evdev-managed keyboard, and I've tried using a generic pc105... all with no luck. Plus, I've already upgraded to 1.5.3-3.
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Jan de Groot <jan@jgc.homeip.net> wrote:
On Sat, 2008-12-06 at 17:45 -0400, Will Siddall wrote:
Hey all, I say I'm pretty comfortable with everything in arch now, but this keyboard issue is starting to drive me nuts. Not too long ago, the change from using kbd to evdev was made and ever since then, my keyboard is all messed up. I can still use my keyboard, but specific keys are changed around.
Looking around, everyone is refering to issues with KDEMod, but I'm using Gnome and using the Evdev-Managed Keyboard. I specified in my 10-keymap.fdi rule file the proper settings and updated my xorg.conf with no change.
The real issue I have is my arrow keys don't work anymore (except for the up arrow is giving me the ScreenCap window) and using xev, the keys are bringing back keycodes for other events. Which is making it REALLY hard to work with vi and just working with the command line in general.
Am I actually going to have to re-key all my keycodes by hand? or is there a way to find out what's going on and properly set my key events?
Upgrade to xorg-server 1.5.3-3 and set your keyboard in KDE to "evdev managed keyboard" or something similiar. Setting it to a specific other model that matches your keyboard will mess up keybindings when using evdev.
I guess this is also what made my mouse not function as expected too. I like the back button on the side of my mouse to function as a second middle mouse (paste) button, but I suddenly find it functioning as a browser back button, as most people prefer. The only easy way I found to get it back to a paste button is by running: xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 8 3 4 5 6 7 2 9 10". This swaps the middle button with the side button, and gives me the paste on the side, but then I lose the middle click to paste, which then becomes browser back. Does anyone know of an easy way to just duplicate the paste button on the side, rather than swap it? -Jason On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Will Siddall <will.siddall@gmail.com> wrote:
Alright, so getting tired of having to deal with it, I remapped everything. It took a while and keep reloading my Xmodmap file to get what I needed. At least it works :D
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Will Siddall <will.siddall@gmail.com>wrote:
Right, but I'm not using KDE, I'm using Gnome. I've tried using an Evdev-managed keyboard, and I've tried using a generic pc105... all with no luck. Plus, I've already upgraded to 1.5.3-3.
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Jan de Groot <jan@jgc.homeip.net> wrote:
On Sat, 2008-12-06 at 17:45 -0400, Will Siddall wrote:
Hey all, I say I'm pretty comfortable with everything in arch now, but this keyboard issue is starting to drive me nuts. Not too long ago, the change from using kbd to evdev was made and ever since then, my keyboard is all messed up. I can still use my keyboard, but specific keys are changed around.
Looking around, everyone is refering to issues with KDEMod, but I'm using Gnome and using the Evdev-Managed Keyboard. I specified in my 10-keymap.fdi rule file the proper settings and updated my xorg.conf with no change.
The real issue I have is my arrow keys don't work anymore (except for the up arrow is giving me the ScreenCap window) and using xev, the keys are bringing back keycodes for other events. Which is making it REALLY hard to work with vi and just working with the command line in general.
Am I actually going to have to re-key all my keycodes by hand? or is there a way to find out what's going on and properly set my key events?
Upgrade to xorg-server 1.5.3-3 and set your keyboard in KDE to "evdev managed keyboard" or something similiar. Setting it to a specific other model that matches your keyboard will mess up keybindings when using evdev.
Did you guys also remove the input devices in xorg.conf Maybe that's causing a conflict? -J On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 10:37 -0500, jason maxwell wrote:
I guess this is also what made my mouse not function as expected too. I like the back button on the side of my mouse to function as a second middle mouse (paste) button, but I suddenly find it functioning as a browser back button, as most people prefer. The only easy way I found to get it back to a paste button is by running: xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 8 3 4 5 6 7 2 9 10".
This swaps the middle button with the side button, and gives me the paste on the side, but then I lose the middle click to paste, which then becomes browser back. Does anyone know of an easy way to just duplicate the paste button on the side, rather than swap it? -Jason
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Will Siddall <will.siddall@gmail.com> wrote: Alright, so getting tired of having to deal with it, I remapped everything. It took a while and keep reloading my Xmodmap file to get what I needed. At least it works :D
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Will Siddall <will.siddall@gmail.com> wrote: Right, but I'm not using KDE, I'm using Gnome. I've tried using an Evdev-managed keyboard, and I've tried using a generic pc105... all with no luck. Plus, I've already upgraded to 1.5.3-3.
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Jan de Groot <jan@jgc.homeip.net> wrote:
On Sat, 2008-12-06 at 17:45 -0400, Will Siddall wrote: > Hey all, I say I'm pretty comfortable with everything in arch now, but > this keyboard issue is starting to drive me nuts. Not too long ago, > the change from using kbd to evdev was made and ever since then, my > keyboard is all messed up. I can still use my keyboard, but specific > keys are changed around. > > Looking around, everyone is refering to issues with KDEMod, but I'm > using Gnome and using the Evdev-Managed Keyboard. I specified in my > 10-keymap.fdi rule file the proper settings and updated my xorg.conf > with no change. > > The real issue I have is my arrow keys don't work anymore (except for > the up arrow is giving me the ScreenCap window) and using xev, the > keys are bringing back keycodes for other events. Which is making it > REALLY hard to work with vi and just working with the command line in > general. > > Am I actually going to have to re-key all my keycodes by hand? or is > there a way to find out what's going on and properly set my key > events?
Upgrade to xorg-server 1.5.3-3 and set your keyboard in KDE to "evdev managed keyboard" or something similiar. Setting it to a specific other model that matches your keyboard will mess up keybindings when using evdev.
On Sat, 2008-12-06 at 18:20 -0400, Will Siddall wrote:
Right, but I'm not using KDE, I'm using Gnome. I've tried using an Evdev-managed keyboard, and I've tried using a generic pc105... all with no luck. Plus, I've already upgraded to 1.5.3-3.
The same that applies to KDE(mod) also applies to GNOME. You need to setup your keyboard as evdev managed keyboard when using evdev. Also, if you're using weird xmodmap things, be sure those things don't set the model to pc105 anyways, as it will break the keymaps also. BTW: Is Gmail so braindead that it can't post plaintext to mailinglists? This HTML is really annoying.
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Jan de Groot <jan@jgc.homeip.net> wrote:
On Sat, 2008-12-06 at 18:20 -0400, Will Siddall wrote:
Right, but I'm not using KDE, I'm using Gnome. I've tried using an Evdev-managed keyboard, and I've tried using a generic pc105... all with no luck. Plus, I've already upgraded to 1.5.3-3.
The same that applies to KDE(mod) also applies to GNOME. You need to setup your keyboard as evdev managed keyboard when using evdev. Also, if you're using weird xmodmap things, be sure those things don't set the model to pc105 anyways, as it will break the keymaps also.
BTW: Is Gmail so braindead that it can't post plaintext to mailinglists? This HTML is really annoying.
I set everything to evdev managed and I took out my keyboard configuration out of xorg.conf and everything is working great. Had to remap everything like I mentioned before, but that was probably a 30 minute job. Now, one thing is really bothering me. There was a few issues to clean up, but now my keyboard rate is all messed up. When I'm browsing around documents or what not, I can use my arrow keys to navigate. Hold them down and I get the action I want... except my Left and Down arrows. There's no shortcut associated to them amd they are mapped properly, I just can't do a rated repeat. Anyone have any tips on what I could look for? BTW: Jan, hope turning off HTML formatting helps you out.
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Jan de Groot
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jason maxwell
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Jon Kristian Nilsen
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Will Siddall