On Tue, 15 Aug 2023 at 13:22, pete <petegn@mail.com> wrote:

Makes me wonder what desktops asre being used KDE /Plasma here KDE for years from the early days mian problems i had were when i had a look at Gnome the FF started being unruley runnin 116.0.2 on Arch here fully updated no issues

try using KDE ..

As far as I'm concerned, I haven't used gnome since RHEL4 circa 2004. Qt/KDE/Plasma all the way baby