[arch-general] X cursor problem on new install
I just installed arch for the first time (trying it out since I am unhappy with the state of Kubuntu). I have, I think, followed the installation instructions carefully. Everything seemed OK until I tried to run X. The cursor is offset from where it should be. If I move the mouse to the right, the cursor stops about 2/3 of the way across the screen and won't go any farther. If I move the mouse to the left, the cursor disappears off the left hand side of the screen and reappears on the right hand side. It stops moving to the left a short distance from the right border on the screen. The display of windows on the screen looks fine; it's just the cursor that seems to be wrong. 1. I have tried two mice; both behave the same way. 2. I used wgetpaste as instructed at wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners'_Guide#Graphical_User_Interface: ~/.xinitrc does not exist /etc/X11/xorg.conf does not exist /var/log/Xorg.0.log is at paste.pocoo.org/show/428974 /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old is at paste.pocoo.org/show/428976 Obviously, I need to get this resolved before proceeding any further with installing a desktop environment. Doc Evans -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR
2011/7/4 D. R. Evans
I just installed arch for the first time (trying it out since I am unhappy with the state of Kubuntu). I have, I think, followed the installation instructions carefully. Everything seemed OK until I tried to run X.
The cursor is offset from where it should be. If I move the mouse to the right, the cursor stops about 2/3 of the way across the screen and won't go any farther. If I move the mouse to the left, the cursor disappears off the left hand side of the screen and reappears on the right hand side. It stops moving to the left a short distance from the right border on the screen.
The display of windows on the screen looks fine; it's just the cursor that seems to be wrong.
1. I have tried two mice; both behave the same way. 2. I used wgetpaste as instructed at wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners'_Guide#Graphical_User_Interfacehttp://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners%27_Guide#Graphical_User_Interf... : ~/.xinitrc does not exist /etc/X11/xorg.conf does not exist /var/log/Xorg.0.log is at paste.pocoo.org/show/428974 /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old is at paste.pocoo.org/show/428976
Obviously, I need to get this resolved before proceeding any further with installing a desktop environment.
It seems you have an Intel graphics card and that the driver does not want to start. Have you read the page https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Intel ? In particular you need to install the package xf86-video-intel and you need to enable KMS to run X.
Guillaume Brunerie said the following at 07/04/2011 11:01 AM :
2011/7/4 D. R. Evans
I just installed arch for the first time (trying it out since I am unhappy with the state of Kubuntu). I have, I think, followed the installation instructions carefully. Everything seemed OK until I tried to run X.
The cursor is offset from where it should be. If I move the mouse to the right, the cursor stops about 2/3 of the way across the screen and won't go any farther. If I move the mouse to the left, the cursor disappears off the left hand side of the screen and reappears on the right hand side. It stops moving to the left a short distance from the right border on the screen.
The display of windows on the screen looks fine; it's just the cursor that seems to be wrong.
1. I have tried two mice; both behave the same way. 2. I used wgetpaste as instructed at wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners'_Guide#Graphical_User_Interfacehttp://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners%27_Guide#Graphical_User_Interf... : ~/.xinitrc does not exist /etc/X11/xorg.conf does not exist /var/log/Xorg.0.log is at paste.pocoo.org/show/428974 /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old is at paste.pocoo.org/show/428976
Obviously, I need to get this resolved before proceeding any further with installing a desktop environment.
It seems you have an Intel graphics card and that the driver does not want to start.
Have you read the page https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Intel ? In particular you need to install the package xf86-video-intel and you need to enable KMS to run X.
Yes, I have read that page. I don't know what part of it you are suggesting is important and which I have failed to follow. 1. xf86-video-intel *is* installed. 2. That page says "KMS is supported by Intel chipsets that use the i915 DRM driver and is now enabled by default as of kernel v2.6.32". Since the current arch kernel is 2.6.39, then it follows that KMS is already enabled. Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR
On 07/06/2011 01:46 PM, D. R. Evans wrote:
Guillaume Brunerie said the following at 07/04/2011 11:01 AM :
It seems you have an Intel graphics card and that the driver does not want to start.
Have you read the page https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Intel ? In particular you need to install the package xf86-video-intel and you need to enable KMS to run X.
Yes, I have read that page. I don't know what part of it you are suggesting is important and which I have failed to follow.
1. xf86-video-intel *is* installed.
How about the intel-dri package? If not, try installing that. (And then restarting X.) If that doesn't work, email back. I use Intel graphics here ... might be able to help you through this. DR
On 07/06/2011 02:00 PM, David Rosenstrauch wrote:
On 07/06/2011 01:46 PM, D. R. Evans wrote:
Guillaume Brunerie said the following at 07/04/2011 11:01 AM :
It seems you have an Intel graphics card and that the driver does not want to start.
Have you read the page https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Intel ? In particular you need to install the package xf86-video-intel and you need to enable KMS to run X.
Yes, I have read that page. I don't know what part of it you are suggesting is important and which I have failed to follow.
1. xf86-video-intel *is* installed.
How about the intel-dri package? If not, try installing that. (And then restarting X.)
If that doesn't work, email back. I use Intel graphics here ... might be able to help you through this.
DR
Also, not sure if this matters, but it looks like you don't have any Xorg fonts installed. Try installing xorg-fonts-100dpi and xorg-fonts-75dpi and see if that helps. DR
On 07/06/2011 03:12 PM, David Rosenstrauch wrote:
On 07/06/2011 02:00 PM, David Rosenstrauch wrote:
On 07/06/2011 01:46 PM, D. R. Evans wrote:
Guillaume Brunerie said the following at 07/04/2011 11:01 AM :
It seems you have an Intel graphics card and that the driver does not want to start.
Have you read the page https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Intel ? In particular you need to install the package xf86-video-intel and you need to enable KMS to run X.
Yes, I have read that page. I don't know what part of it you are suggesting is important and which I have failed to follow.
1. xf86-video-intel *is* installed.
How about the intel-dri package? If not, try installing that. (And then restarting X.)
If that doesn't work, email back. I use Intel graphics here ... might be able to help you through this.
DR
Also, not sure if this matters, but it looks like you don't have any Xorg fonts installed. Try installing xorg-fonts-100dpi and xorg-fonts-75dpi and see if that helps.
DR
One other suggestion: Try *un*installing xf86-video-fbdev and xf86-video-vesa. It looks like it might be picking up the VESA driver, rather than the Intel one. HTH, DR
David Rosenstrauch said the following at 07/06/2011 01:19 PM :
On 07/06/2011 03:12 PM, David Rosenstrauch wrote:
On 07/06/2011 02:00 PM, David Rosenstrauch wrote:
On 07/06/2011 01:46 PM, D. R. Evans wrote:
Guillaume Brunerie said the following at 07/04/2011 11:01 AM :
It seems you have an Intel graphics card and that the driver does not want to start.
Have you read the page https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Intel ? In particular you need to install the package xf86-video-intel and you need to enable KMS to run X.
Yes, I have read that page. I don't know what part of it you are suggesting is important and which I have failed to follow.
1. xf86-video-intel *is* installed.
How about the intel-dri package? If not, try installing that. (And then restarting X.)
If that doesn't work, email back. I use Intel graphics here ... might be able to help you through this.
DR
Also, not sure if this matters, but it looks like you don't have any Xorg fonts installed. Try installing xorg-fonts-100dpi and xorg-fonts-75dpi and see if that helps.
DR
One other suggestion:
Try *un*installing xf86-video-fbdev and xf86-video-vesa. It looks like it might be picking up the VESA driver, rather than the Intel one.
Still no change in behaviour -- the cursor still moves off the left side of the screen and reappears on the right side, and stops moving to the left partway across the screen. It's as if the position of the cursor is about ½ of the screen width to the left of where it should be. The /var/log.Xorg.0.log after making all your suggested changes is at: paste.pocoo.org/show/436407. Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR
On 07/11/2011 05:11 PM, D. R. Evans wrote:
David Rosenstrauch said the following at 07/06/2011 01:19 PM :
Also, not sure if this matters, but it looks like you don't have any Xorg fonts installed. Try installing xorg-fonts-100dpi and xorg-fonts-75dpi and see if that helps.
DR
One other suggestion:
Try *un*installing xf86-video-fbdev and xf86-video-vesa. It looks like it might be picking up the VESA driver, rather than the Intel one.
Still no change in behaviour -- the cursor still moves off the left side of the screen and reappears on the right side, and stops moving to the left partway across the screen. It's as if the position of the cursor is about ½ of the screen width to the left of where it should be.
The /var/log.Xorg.0.log after making all your suggested changes is at: paste.pocoo.org/show/436407.
Doc
Hmmm ... your Xorg loading definitely seems to be happening differently from mine. (See: http://www.darose.net/Xorg.0.log) I'm not sure why yet. Perhaps with more info we can figure it out. How are you starting up X? Using a DM like KDM/GDM/Slim/Qingy? DR
David Rosenstrauch said the following at 07/11/2011 03:43 PM :
Hmmm ... your Xorg loading definitely seems to be happening differently from mine. (See: http://www.darose.net/Xorg.0.log) I'm not sure why yet. Perhaps with more info we can figure it out.
How are you starting up X? Using a DM like KDM/GDM/Slim/Qingy?
startx. I figured that that was the bare-bones minimum, so there was less to go wrong :-) Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR
On 07/12/2011 05:27 AM, D. R. Evans wrote:
startx.
I figured that that was the bare-bones minimum, so there was less to go wrong :-)
I don't know if that changes anything, but do you start in runlevel 5? -- vic@demuzere.be :: http://vic.demuzere.be :: PGP: 0x6690CF94 My software never contains bugs, it just develops random features.
On 07/11/2011 11:27 PM, D. R. Evans wrote:
David Rosenstrauch said the following at 07/11/2011 03:43 PM :
Hmmm ... your Xorg loading definitely seems to be happening differently from mine. (See: http://www.darose.net/Xorg.0.log) I'm not sure why yet. Perhaps with more info we can figure it out.
How are you starting up X? Using a DM like KDM/GDM/Slim/Qingy?
startx.
I figured that that was the bare-bones minimum, so there was less to go wrong :-)
Doc
Maybe that's somehow the problem. i.e., maybe some key initialization is not getting done with startx, which does get done using a DM. Why don't you try using a lightweight DM to launch your X session instead, like Slim or Qingy. I've had good success with both. (The Xorg log file that I posted for you came from starting X under Slim.) Slim might be the better choice than Qingy though, as Slim launches X immediately (i.e., once you see the Slim splash screen X is running) whereas the Qingy splash runs under a frame buffer, and doesn't launch X until you log in. More details on how to set up Slim here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Slim ... and my Slim .xinitrc is appended below. HTH, DR --- #!/bin/sh # # ~/.xinitrc # # Executed by startx (run your window manager from here) # # The following variable defines the session which is started if the user doesn't explicitly select a session #DEFAULT_SESSION=twm #DEFAULT_SESSION=/opt/kde/bin/startkde #DEFAULT_SESSION=startkde DEFAULT_SESSION=startxfce4 case $1 in kde) exec ck-launch-session /opt/kde/bin/startkde ;; kde4) exec ck-launch-session startkde ;; gnome) exec ck-launch-session gnome-session ;; xfce4) exec ck-launch-session startxfce4 ;; icewm) icewmbg & icewmtray & exec ck-launch-session icewm ;; wmaker) exec ck-launch-session wmaker ;; fluxbox) exec ck-launch-session startfluxbox ;; awesome) exec ck-launch-session awesome ;; *) exec ck-launch-session $DEFAULT_SESSION ;; esac
David Rosenstrauch said the following at 07/06/2011 01:12 PM :
On 07/06/2011 02:00 PM, David Rosenstrauch wrote:
On 07/06/2011 01:46 PM, D. R. Evans wrote:
Guillaume Brunerie said the following at 07/04/2011 11:01 AM :
It seems you have an Intel graphics card and that the driver does not want to start.
Have you read the page https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Intel ? In particular you need to install the package xf86-video-intel and you need to enable KMS to run X.
Yes, I have read that page. I don't know what part of it you are suggesting is important and which I have failed to follow.
1. xf86-video-intel *is* installed.
How about the intel-dri package? If not, try installing that. (And then restarting X.)
If that doesn't work, email back. I use Intel graphics here ... might be able to help you through this.
DR
Also, not sure if this matters, but it looks like you don't have any Xorg fonts installed. Try installing xorg-fonts-100dpi and xorg-fonts-75dpi and see if that helps.
I've installed those, but there's no obvious difference. I don't think that the fonts available should have any effect on the location of the X cursor, though. Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR
David Rosenstrauch said the following at 07/06/2011 12:00 PM :
On 07/06/2011 01:46 PM, D. R. Evans wrote:
Guillaume Brunerie said the following at 07/04/2011 11:01 AM :
It seems you have an Intel graphics card and that the driver does not want to start.
Have you read the page https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Intel ? In particular you need to install the package xf86-video-intel and you need to enable KMS to run X.
Yes, I have read that page. I don't know what part of it you are suggesting is important and which I have failed to follow.
1. xf86-video-intel *is* installed.
How about the intel-dri package? If not, try installing that. (And then restarting X.)
I installed that, but it made no obvious difference. Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR
D. R. Evans said the following at 07/11/2011 03:07 PM :
David Rosenstrauch said the following at 07/06/2011 12:00 PM :
On 07/06/2011 01:46 PM, D. R. Evans wrote:
Guillaume Brunerie said the following at 07/04/2011 11:01 AM :
It seems you have an Intel graphics card and that the driver does not want to start.
Have you read the page https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Intel ? In particular you need to install the package xf86-video-intel and you need to enable KMS to run X.
Yes, I have read that page. I don't know what part of it you are suggesting is important and which I have failed to follow.
1. xf86-video-intel *is* installed.
How about the intel-dri package? If not, try installing that. (And then restarting X.)
I installed that, but it made no obvious difference.
FYI, and just to close this thread, I have given up trying to get X to work with arch on this machine; I have no idea why it wouldn't work properly (Windows, which was previously installed on it, worked fine). I have installed arch + X on a different machine, where it seems to work OK. Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR
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