I do have a quick follow-up question. My friends who works for CIP United told me that they've already got a full Debian port, and it can be run with either qemu-system or qemu-user (unfortunately it seems actual hardware for MIPS64 R6 aren't available yet, probably due to the global silicon shortage). So I'm wondering will it be easier if I first compile pacman against Debian libraries, and use that to natively bootstrap a stage1 image than using cross compiler for bootstrapping?
Thank you for your time and have a nice day.
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On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 09:00:04AM +0000, Sijie Bu via arch-ports wrote:
(This message was originally posted on arch-general and I was redirected by a member to this list.)
I am about to start working as an intern at CIP United, a company focusing on MIPS chips, and I will be bootstrapping Arch Linux onto the MIPS64r6 architecture, in a fashion similar to Arch Linux ARM.
I have checked the Arch Linux MIPS project, but it seems to be inactive for years now. I have checked ArchWiki's DeveloperWiki section, but it seems to lack guidelines or suggestions on bootstrapping Arch onto a new architecture. Therefore I have a few questions:
- Intuitively, I think I should cross-compile the packages of the "core" section (sans a few x64-specific packages) and build a bootable rootfs, but I was having some trouble finding how should I set makepkg to cross-compile. Do I just set up an Arch developer environment as usual, but substitute the toolchain with the cross ones?
I did a "cross-compile" from x86_64 to i486 some time ago, you can maybe find some useful information in https://git.archlinux32.org/bootstrap32/.
I can also recommend the oakensource's RISC-V port at https://github.com/oaken-source/parabola-cross-bootstrap
Basically yes, you'll need a cross toolchain for MIPS, either from the AUR or use a cross-platorm distro like http://t2sde.org/ to bootstrap directly from MIPS (in qemu or so).
- Does adding a new architecture require modifications to the pacman source code? Or pacman itself should support new architectures? I have also tried looking at pacman source code, and it seems to not have hard-coded list of architectures, but I am not 100% sure about this (if I'll have to modify the source code of pacman, I will be emailing the pacman-dev mailing list regarding their policies on patches etc.).
In theory pacman should be quite portable (it runs at least on x86_64, IA32, ARM 32-bit, AARCH64). So the typical 32-/64-bit issues should have been fixed.
You will have to make pacman know about your new architecture (and eventually subarchitectures). See our fork of pacman on https://git.archlinux32.org/pacman/ (basically auto-detection for SSE2, support for sub-architectures 'i486', 'i686', 'pentium4').
Most work I expect in breaking cycles and dependencies in PKGBUILDs.
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