On 1/28/24 13:39, Pellegrino Prevete wrote:
In contrast to what he is stating about me, I do build and test the packages from AUR and give feedback and recommendations based on evidence. It is him who apparently does not build his own packages, because many of them have bad source URLs, missing runtime dependencies, and other misconfigurations.
Anyone can try to build, as an example, AUR/python2-pip's individual dependencies, and see how many fail to build. python2-pip has been broken on AUR due to unbuildable requirements ever since its submission in 2022-09. Even some that have been recently updated by him have such errors.
He is at this very moment keeping filing requesting deletion requests for dependencies of ipython2 because for some reason he is obsessed it does not to be working (this is even more stressing because we are talking of a super old package which has never ever stopped working at any time).
He first started attacking the dependencies, then the package then again the dependencies. Now we are back full circle. 1) The package is said broken because he has a dependency broken 2) Then the dependency is to delete because the package is said broken 3) Then the dependency is deleted, and the package can be said broken 4) Now when you fix the package fixing the dependency you have him say what he just sent about how my work is even damaging and the package should stay down in general.
I am tired this person does not use continuous integration to prove what he says.
He keeps and keeps asserting something does not work on his side yet he never posts code to prove or to show what his issues are. No propositions, no patches, nothing.
It's insane we can have somebody who complains about everything this way and who does not work to fix it himself.
Because if you work a lot he has a lot of attack surface.
So he is toxicity in person at this very moment, considering he is still sending requests while we talk here.
I invite you to reflect we are having this discussion because he can't fix his undisclosed issues himself, nor he provides neutral context for his issues, nor he is able to rollback to a previous version, nor he is able to maintain a propositive attitude and materially read the code.
At this point in time he looks so much of a child to me because he is saying somebody who maintains around 500 packages some are outdated as if I would not want to upgrade them.
Please, just make it stop... I'll be honest here, it's becoming to be a huge pain having to deal with the same people always involved in the same dramas over and over somehow. It's just noisy and exhausting. The AUR is a place made to allow public contributions to Arch Linux packaging, everyone contributing there is expected to follow Arch Linux Code Of Conduct [1] and behave as grown-ups generally speaking. If neither you (Pellegrino) nor Marcell are able to behave as such and get along, we'll start taking actions on _both of your respective accounts_. Understand that we cannot allow that much constant trouble by the same 2 or 3 people indefinitely. So please: - To everyone: Let's stop with this ML thread. The initial subject for this thread has been closed, let's do the same with this thread itself. - To Pellegrino: If you want to make a formal complain, create your own thread and do not bump other ones. Make it clear, complete, _concise_ and include proper evidences (it's not for us to dig for your complain). Generally speaking, please chill a bit with your _numerous_ and repetitive answers to the ML. Keep in mind that all your numerous and personal rants are sent to _everyone_ subscribed to the ML. - To Marcell: Generally speaking, chill a bit with what you're doing. While we appreciate your general involvement into the AUR, keep in mind that we just cannot absorbe the amount of work it involves on our side, specifically when it comes with additional dramas (I'm not saying that you're necessarily responsible for all of those, but let's face it, they do happen. I hope you get the point.). The huge workload it involves on us is just discouraging. Let me remind you (and everyone else while we're at it) that moderating the AUR is just a part of our duties and we are all doing that as volunteers on our free time. Let's not make all of that counterproductive. - To both of you (Pellegrino and Marcell): Please behave, generally speaking. As said earlier, both of your names are starting to be mentioned a bit too often and, as said before, we just cannot allow (or ignore) that much trouble by the same people over and over. Sorry I have to say this, but take this as a formal warning. [1] https://terms.archlinux.org/docs/code-of-conduct/ -- Regards, Robin Candau / Antiz