On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 at 15:33 Frederik Schwan <freswa@archlinux.org> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 09:49:59AM +0200, Tomaz Canabrava wrote:
On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 9:32 AM Robin Candau <[1]antiz@archlinux.org>
wrote:
On 7/31/25 9:14 AM, Tomaz Canabrava wrote: > > > On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 at 23:37 Frederik Schwan <[2]
freswa@archlinux.org
> <mailto:[3]freswa@archlinux.org>> wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 06:27:04PM -0300, Giancarlo Razzolini
wrote:
> > Excerpts from Tomaz Canabrava's message of julho 30, 2025
9:09 am:
> > > > > > I confirm that I'm sponsoring Martin and that I'll be his > mentor. This > > > message is signed with my gpg key. > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > Now that Tomaz has sent the signed email, the official
discussion
> period started. But I'm glad some discussion is already
happening
> and Martin already accepted some of suggestions. > > > > Regards, > > Giancarlo Razzolini > > Hi Giancarlo, > as per our TU bylaws [0] one must find two sponsoring _TUs_: > > > In order to become a TU, one must first find two sponsoring
TUs
> following the guidelines outlined below, and arrange privately
with
> them to announce their candidacy on the aur-general mailing
list.
> > But as of [1] you resigned as TU. Therefore it appears to me
that
> you cannot sponsor Martin. > > Best regards, > Frederik > > [0] [4]https://github.com/archlinux/tu-bylaws/blob/master/tu- > bylaws.adoc <[5]
https://github.com/archlinux/tu-bylaws/blob/master/
tu- > bylaws.adoc> > [1] [6]https://lists.archlinux.org/archives/list/aur- > [7]general@lists.archlinux.org/message/ > FETRJKGSYJANXVKMNED6QROO56LLUMKM/ <[8]
> archives/list/[9]aur-general@lists.archlinux.org/message/ > FETRJKGSYJANXVKMNED6QROO56LLUMKM/> > > > hello, > > i disagree with the premisses states here, the document says that
for
> addition of a TU one must find two TUs to sponsor, > > But we are not adding a TU, but a Package Maintainer. > Gian is a package maintainer. > so am I. > > best, > tomaz > > >
Hi,
The "TU / Trusted User" role is the old name for the current "PM / Package Maintainer" one. See the related RFC for the rename of the
role
[1]. The bylaws has been updated accordingly [2][3].
Technically speaking, if Giancarlo resigned as a TU, he is defacto
not a
package maintainer (as TU is simply the previous name of the current
PM
role).
I do agree that the rename was a big thing but I feel that this is not
correct
- the TU role and the Package Maintainer roles are slightly different.
So you say, that if I `mv filea fileb`, the checksum of the file contents differ?
no mate, i think a cat filea | cut > fileb, the checksums of the file contents differ.
if you look at the Package Maintainers list, Gian is still there, and Gian still packages things that goes directly to extra and core, he wouldn't be able to do that if he was not a Package Maintainer. le con He is able to push packages due to his role as Developer.
Maintaining packages is the role of developers, but not of a Package Manager?
other than that, Gian also sponsored people (me included) after he resigned as TU, and that was not a problem.
Just because nobody noticed back then doesn't mean the rules may not be enforced in the future.