[aur-requests] [PRQ#10358] Deletion Request for nodejs-fake
On 19/01/2018 sL1pKn07 fabio via aur-requests wrote:
*FabioLolix [1] filed a deletion request for nodejs-fake [2]: *> > *pacman --assume-installed option exist *> > *[1] https://aur.archlinux.org/account/FabioLolix/ https://aur.archlinux.org/account/FabioLolix/ **> *[2] https://aur.archlinux.org/pkgbase/nodejs-fake/
Of course it does, but that has to be used on every update and installation of package that has nodejs as dependency (which lets be honest not a lot of people look into before installing a package). This pseudo package helps nvm be the only source of nodejs regardless of installs and updates. Since the package is in aur, it doesn't have to be used if you want to do the hassle of using --assume-installed on every install and update. Having a choice is a good thing in my opinion.
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On January 19, 2018 7:24 PM, Eric Jardas via aur-requests
On 19/01/2018 sL1pKn07 fabio via aur-requests wrote:
FabioLolix [1] filed a deletion request for nodejs-fake [2]:
pacman --assume-installed option exist [1] https://aur.archlinux.org/account/FabioLolix/>[2] https://aur.archlinux.org/pkgbase/nodejs-fake/
Of course it does, but that has to be used on every update and installation of package that has nodejs as dependency (which lets be honest not a lot of people look into before installing a package). This pseudo package helps nvm be the only source of nodejs regardless of installs and updates. Since the package is in aur, it doesn't have to be used if you want to do the hassle of using --assume-installed on every install and update. Having a choice is a good thing in my opinion.
I just had a philosoraptor moment: if every dimwit can come up with a dummy package to pretend X was installed, does that mean we have to treat your dummy package as valuable? For each real package that already exists, there's a potential *-fake package to be created, are you sure you want to have thousands upon thousands of *-fake packages on AUR? And we're definitely not talking about the apulse kind of fake. I somewhat cannot tell. Part of me insists in "good riddance". cheers! mar77i
On 01/19/2018 01:35 PM, Mar77i via aur-requests wrote:
I just had a philosoraptor moment: if every dimwit can come up with a dummy package to pretend X was installed, does that mean we have to treat your dummy package as valuable? For each real package that already exists, there's a potential *-fake package to be created, are you sure you want to have thousands upon thousands of *-fake packages on AUR? And we're definitely not talking about the apulse kind of fake.
I somewhat cannot tell. Part of me insists in "good riddance".
Welp! That was a somewhat prescient post, you beat me by 20 seconds. -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted User
Honestly I didn't think --assume-installed was being used as much there would be a need for every package to have a -fake one aswell. This is already to much thinking and discussion about a pseudo package, so I suggest you just remove it then. On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 7:42 PM, Eli Schwartz via aur-requests < aur-requests@archlinux.org> wrote:
I just had a philosoraptor moment: if every dimwit can come up with a dummy package to pretend X was installed, does that mean we have to treat your dummy package as valuable? For each real package that already exists,
On 01/19/2018 01:35 PM, Mar77i via aur-requests wrote: there's a potential *-fake package to be created, are you sure you want to have thousands upon thousands of *-fake packages on AUR? And we're definitely not talking about the apulse kind of fake.
I somewhat cannot tell. Part of me insists in "good riddance".
Welp! That was a somewhat prescient post, you beat me by 20 seconds.
-- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted User
On 01/19/2018 01:24 PM, Eric Jardas via aur-requests wrote:
On 19/01/2018 sL1pKn07 fabio via aur-requests wrote:
///FabioLolix [1] filed a deletion request for nodejs-fake [2]: />//>///pacman --assume-installed option exist />//>///[1] https://aur.archlinux.org/account/FabioLolix/ https://aur.archlinux.org/account/FabioLolix/ //>///[2] https://aur.archlinux.org/pkgbase/nodejs-fake/ https://aur.archlinux.org/pkgbase/nodejs-fake//// /
Of course it does, but that has to be used on every update and installation of package that has nodejs as dependency (which lets be honest not a lot of people look into before installing a package). This pseudo package helps nvm be the only source of nodejs regardless of installs and updates. Since the package is in aur, it doesn't have to be used if you want to do the hassle of using --assume-installed on every install and update. Having a choice is a good thing in my opinion.
IMHO it is less about --assume-installed existing, and more about "if we let people submit dummy packages, eventually we will have one dummy package in the AUR for each real package in the repos, on top of the numerous variations, patched versions, git version, devel versions, and compat versions". If you really need a dummy package, why can't you just make your own private dummy package? It's what I do... This has the advantage of not cluttering up the AUR with do-nothing packages. ... For people who do not know how to make a dummy package on their own, I'm not sure we should condone offering them an easy way to fool pacman's dependency parsing. They'll just get into trouble when it finally breaks on them. -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted User
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