It seems people are getting really confused with the directory permission warnings that makepkg prints when upgrading a package that changes some permissions in its install script. There are a few ways to deal with this: 1) some packages have a reserved user:group ids - these should be chmoded in the PKGBUILD rather than the install scriptlet. 2) We somehow flag those directories/files that will change permissions. This will stop the directory permission warnings and -Qkk errors. 3) I opened a bug a couple of years ago: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/30185 . Most (all?) of the directory permission warnings are for directories owned by an individual package. So we should just fix the permissions. This will still leave -Qkk errors. Any other thoughts on this? A