[arch-general] Programs Not Closing
Hello, Ever since the upgrade to KDE 4.7 several weeks ago, a lot of programs seem to hang in the Task Manager after I close them. They will remain for a long time or until I open another application. I also have an occasional application crash when I shutdown. Unfortunately, the crash message tells me nothing of what program is crashing and I'm not sure if it's related. My question for everyone is regarding the programs hanging around since it's a regular thing and is most likely the cause of the latter. Is this a common thing or do I have some conflict somewhere, or a service that isn't happy? I run pacman -Suy almost daily and use Firefox, Thunderbird, Kopete, Yakuake, VirtualBox, Terminal, Kwrite, and BOINC on a regular bases. I put my system to sleep nightly and shutdown at the end of the week. DAEMONS=(syslog-ng dbus network !netfs crond alsa @cupsd @boinc @samba). I hope that's enough info. Thank you -- Yesterday is history. Tomorrow is a mystery. Today is a gift. That's why its called the present. Headmaster Squall :: The Wired/Section-9 Close the world txen eht nepo $3R14L 3XP3R1M3NT$ #L41N http://twitter.com/headmastersqual
2011/10/26 Squall Lionheart <headmastersquall@gmail.com>:
Is this a common thing or do I have some conflict somewhere, or a service that isn't happy?
Works fine here, on both i686 and x86_64.
26.10.2011 20:53, Squall Lionheart пишет:
Hello,
Ever since the upgrade to KDE 4.7 several weeks ago, a lot of programs seem to hang in the Task Manager after I close them. They will remain for a long time or until I open another application. I also have an occasional application crash when I shutdown. Unfortunately, the crash message tells me nothing of what program is crashing and I'm not sure if it's related.
My question for everyone is regarding the programs hanging around since it's a regular thing and is most likely the cause of the latter. Is this a common thing or do I have some conflict somewhere, or a service that isn't happy?
I run pacman -Suy almost daily and use Firefox, Thunderbird, Kopete, Yakuake, VirtualBox, Terminal, Kwrite, and BOINC on a regular bases. I put my system to sleep nightly and shutdown at the end of the week. DAEMONS=(syslog-ng dbus network !netfs crond alsa @cupsd @boinc @samba).
I hope that's enough info.
Thank you
What you mean under "Task Manager" ? The thing is i have similar problem after update to KDE 4.7 - some programs exist in task panel some time, after I closed them. For example after i closing firefox i can see it's shortcut in task panel. -- Cheers, Roman V.Leon.
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Roman V.Leon. <roman-vl@meta.ua> wrote:
26.10.2011 20:53, Squall Lionheart пишет:
Hello,
Ever since the upgrade to KDE 4.7 several weeks ago, a lot of programs seem to hang in the Task Manager after I close them. They will remain for a long time or until I open another application. I also have an occasional application crash when I shutdown. Unfortunately, the crash message tells me nothing of what program is crashing and I'm not sure if it's related.
My question for everyone is regarding the programs hanging around since it's a regular thing and is most likely the cause of the latter. Is this a common thing or do I have some conflict somewhere, or a service that isn't happy?
I run pacman -Suy almost daily and use Firefox, Thunderbird, Kopete, Yakuake, VirtualBox, Terminal, Kwrite, and BOINC on a regular bases. I put my system to sleep nightly and shutdown at the end of the week. DAEMONS=(syslog-ng dbus network !netfs crond alsa @cupsd @boinc @samba).
I hope that's enough info.
Thank you
What you mean under "Task Manager" ? The thing is i have similar problem
after update to KDE 4.7 - some programs exist in task panel some time, after I closed them. For example after i closing firefox i can see it's shortcut in task panel.
-- Cheers, Roman V.Leon.
I am referring to the same thing. The Task panel is named Task Manager. After I close an application, the space it would take on the panel remains and the icon changes to the X no icon image (I think it's the xorg icon/logo). After this happens, the only way to get rid of it is to open and close another application or to wait a long time. Do you think Desktop Search, Nepomnk or akonadi would have anything to do with this? I had them disabled for a long time then enabled them after the 4.7 update since I was constantly being nagged about them being disabled. Would rather not have them at all in my opinion. -- Yesterday is history. Tomorrow is a mystery. Today is a gift. That's why its called the present. Headmaster Squall :: The Wired/Section-9 Close the world txen eht nepo $3R14L 3XP3R1M3NT$ #L41N http://twitter.com/headmastersqual
26.10.2011 22:10, Squall Lionheart пишет:
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Roman V.Leon.<roman-vl@meta.ua> wrote:
26.10.2011 20:53, Squall Lionheart пишет:
Hello,
Ever since the upgrade to KDE 4.7 several weeks ago, a lot of programs seem to hang in the Task Manager after I close them. They will remain for a long time or until I open another application. I also have an occasional application crash when I shutdown. Unfortunately, the crash message tells me nothing of what program is crashing and I'm not sure if it's related.
My question for everyone is regarding the programs hanging around since it's a regular thing and is most likely the cause of the latter. Is this a common thing or do I have some conflict somewhere, or a service that isn't happy?
I run pacman -Suy almost daily and use Firefox, Thunderbird, Kopete, Yakuake, VirtualBox, Terminal, Kwrite, and BOINC on a regular bases. I put my system to sleep nightly and shutdown at the end of the week. DAEMONS=(syslog-ng dbus network !netfs crond alsa @cupsd @boinc @samba).
I hope that's enough info.
Thank you
What you mean under "Task Manager" ? The thing is i have similar problem
after update to KDE 4.7 - some programs exist in task panel some time, after I closed them. For example after i closing firefox i can see it's shortcut in task panel.
-- Cheers, Roman V.Leon.
I am referring to the same thing. The Task panel is named Task Manager. After I close an application, the space it would take on the panel remains and the icon changes to the X no icon image (I think it's the xorg icon/logo). After this happens, the only way to get rid of it is to open and close another application or to wait a long time.
Do you think Desktop Search, Nepomnk or akonadi would have anything to do with this? I had them disabled for a long time then enabled them after the 4.7 update since I was constantly being nagged about them being disabled. Would rather not have them at all in my opinion.
I don't think it's search systems behaviour, i had disabled them about a year ago(when system was installed) and never used them. I was under impression that i'm just the only one lucky with this issue, now it seems that it's a bug which became visible after update. -- Cheers, Roman V.Leon.
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Roman V.Leon. <roman-vl@meta.ua> wrote:
26.10.2011 22:10, Squall Lionheart пишет:
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Roman V.Leon.<roman-vl@meta.ua> wrote:
26.10.2011 20:53, Squall Lionheart пишет:
Hello,
Ever since the upgrade to KDE 4.7 several weeks ago, a lot of programs seem to hang in the Task Manager after I close them. They will remain for a long time or until I open another application. I also have an occasional application crash when I shutdown. Unfortunately, the crash message tells me nothing of what program is crashing and I'm not sure if it's related.
My question for everyone is regarding the programs hanging around since it's a regular thing and is most likely the cause of the latter. Is this a common thing or do I have some conflict somewhere, or a service that isn't happy?
I run pacman -Suy almost daily and use Firefox, Thunderbird, Kopete, Yakuake, VirtualBox, Terminal, Kwrite, and BOINC on a regular bases. I put my system to sleep nightly and shutdown at the end of the week. DAEMONS=(syslog-ng dbus network !netfs crond alsa @cupsd @boinc @samba).
I hope that's enough info.
Thank you
What you mean under "Task Manager" ? The thing is i have similar problem
after update to KDE 4.7 - some programs exist in task panel some time, after I closed them. For example after i closing firefox i can see it's shortcut in task panel.
-- Cheers, Roman V.Leon.
I am referring to the same thing. The Task panel is named Task Manager. After I close an application, the space it would take on the panel remains and the icon changes to the X no icon image (I think it's the xorg icon/logo). After this happens, the only way to get rid of it is to open and close another application or to wait a long time.
Do you think Desktop Search, Nepomnk or akonadi would have anything to do with this? I had them disabled for a long time then enabled them after the 4.7 update since I was constantly being nagged about them being disabled. Would rather not have them at all in my opinion.
I don't think it's search systems behaviour, i had disabled them about a
year ago(when system was installed) and never used them. I was under impression that i'm just the only one lucky with this issue, now it seems that it's a bug which became visible after update.
-- Cheers, Roman V.Leon.
I'm glad I'm not the only one with the problem. Do you suspect anything in particular, or does it feel like a KDE bug?
Hello, i have exactly the same problem. ----- Mail original ----- De: "Squall Lionheart" <headmastersquall@gmail.com> À: "General Discussion about Arch Linux" <arch-general@archlinux.org> Envoyé: Mercredi 26 Octobre 2011 21:53:11 Objet: Re: [arch-general] Programs Not Closing On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Roman V.Leon. <roman-vl@meta.ua> wrote:
26.10.2011 22:10, Squall Lionheart пишет:
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Roman V.Leon.<roman-vl@meta.ua> wrote:
26.10.2011 20:53, Squall Lionheart пишет:
Hello,
Ever since the upgrade to KDE 4.7 several weeks ago, a lot of programs seem to hang in the Task Manager after I close them. They will remain for a long time or until I open another application. I also have an occasional application crash when I shutdown. Unfortunately, the crash message tells me nothing of what program is crashing and I'm not sure if it's related.
My question for everyone is regarding the programs hanging around since it's a regular thing and is most likely the cause of the latter. Is this a common thing or do I have some conflict somewhere, or a service that isn't happy?
I run pacman -Suy almost daily and use Firefox, Thunderbird, Kopete, Yakuake, VirtualBox, Terminal, Kwrite, and BOINC on a regular bases. I put my system to sleep nightly and shutdown at the end of the week. DAEMONS=(syslog-ng dbus network !netfs crond alsa @cupsd @boinc @samba).
I hope that's enough info.
Thank you
What you mean under "Task Manager" ? The thing is i have similar problem
after update to KDE 4.7 - some programs exist in task panel some time, after I closed them. For example after i closing firefox i can see it's shortcut in task panel.
-- Cheers, Roman V.Leon.
I am referring to the same thing. The Task panel is named Task Manager. After I close an application, the space it would take on the panel remains and the icon changes to the X no icon image (I think it's the xorg icon/logo). After this happens, the only way to get rid of it is to open and close another application or to wait a long time.
Do you think Desktop Search, Nepomnk or akonadi would have anything to do with this? I had them disabled for a long time then enabled them after the 4.7 update since I was constantly being nagged about them being disabled. Would rather not have them at all in my opinion.
I don't think it's search systems behaviour, i had disabled them about a
year ago(when system was installed) and never used them. I was under impression that i'm just the only one lucky with this issue, now it seems that it's a bug which became visible after update.
-- Cheers, Roman V.Leon.
I'm glad I'm not the only one with the problem. Do you suspect anything in particular, or does it feel like a KDE bug?
The day was 26/10/11 19:10 when , Squall Lionheart had this to say......:
Do you think Desktop Search, Nepomnk or akonadi would have anything to do with this? I had them disabled for a long time then enabled them after the 4.7 update since I was constantly being nagged about them being disabled. Would rather not have them at all in my opinion.
I've disabled them without any troubles so far [1] [2] , bear in mind though they'll automatically start if you open kmail etc and are needed by some things to work properly [3] [1] http://henryhermawan.blogspot.com/2011/08/disable-nepomuk-and-akonadi.html [2] http://ubuntuku.org/16/how-to-disable-nepomuk-akonadi/ [3] http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=154&t=88771#p162713 Simon
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 5:11 AM, Simon Stoakley <sausageandeggs@archlinux.us
wrote:
The day was 26/10/11 19:10 when , Squall Lionheart had this to say......:
Do you think Desktop Search, Nepomnk or akonadi would have anything to do with this? I had them disabled for a long time then enabled them after the 4.7 update since I was constantly being nagged about them being disabled. Would rather not have them at all in my opinion.
I've disabled them without any troubles so far [1] [2] , bear in mind though they'll automatically start if you open kmail etc and are needed by some things to work properly [3]
[1] http://henryhermawan.blogspot.**com/2011/08/disable-nepomuk-** and-akonadi.html<http://henryhermawan.blogspot.com/2011/08/disable-nepomuk-and-akonadi.html> [2] http://ubuntuku.org/16/how-to-**disable-nepomuk-akonadi/<http://ubuntuku.org/16/how-to-disable-nepomuk-akonadi/> [3] http://forum.kde.org/**viewtopic.php?f=154&t=88771#**p162713<http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=154&t=88771#p162713>
Simon
Thank you for the links, they were very helpful.
-- Yesterday is history. Tomorrow is a mystery. Today is a gift. That's why its called the present. Headmaster Squall :: The Wired/Section-9 Close the world txen eht nepo $3R14L 3XP3R1M3NT$ #L41N http://twitter.com/headmastersqual
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Squall Lionheart < headmastersquall@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 5:11 AM, Simon Stoakley < sausageandeggs@archlinux.us> wrote:
The day was 26/10/11 19:10 when , Squall Lionheart had this to say......:
Do you think Desktop Search, Nepomnk or akonadi would have anything to do with this? I had them disabled for a long time then enabled them after the 4.7 update since I was constantly being nagged about them being disabled. Would rather not have them at all in my opinion.
I've disabled them without any troubles so far [1] [2] , bear in mind though they'll automatically start if you open kmail etc and are needed by some things to work properly [3]
[1] http://henryhermawan.blogspot.**com/2011/08/disable-nepomuk-** and-akonadi.html<http://henryhermawan.blogspot.com/2011/08/disable-nepomuk-and-akonadi.html> [2] http://ubuntuku.org/16/how-to-**disable-nepomuk-akonadi/<http://ubuntuku.org/16/how-to-disable-nepomuk-akonadi/> [3] http://forum.kde.org/**viewtopic.php?f=154&t=88771#**p162713<http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=154&t=88771#p162713>
Simon
Thank you for the links, they were very helpful.
-- Yesterday is history. Tomorrow is a mystery. Today is a gift. That's why its called the present.
Headmaster Squall :: The Wired/Section-9 Close the world txen eht nepo $3R14L 3XP3R1M3NT$ #L41N http://twitter.com/headmastersqual
Found out that the the program that is crashing when I log out is plasma-desktop. Not sure if it's related or not.
On Wednesday 26 Oct 2011 10:53:18 Squall Lionheart wrote:
Ever since the upgrade to KDE 4.7 several weeks ago, a lot of programs seem to hang in the Task Manager after I close them. They will remain for a long time or until I open another application. I also have an occasional application crash when I shutdown. Unfortunately, the crash message tells me nothing of what program is crashing and I'm not sure if it's related.
I've seen behaviour that I *think* is what you're describing. I've seen a few applications remain in the task bar, but I'm almost certain that it's simply a bug in the plasmoid. Any kind of update to the window list in the task bar (e.g. moving a window onto another screen and back) removes the phantom task bar entry. Paul
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