[arch-dev-public] Archlinux [current] status

[Aaron Griffin]

On 5/9/07, Jason Chu <jason at archlinux.org> wrote:
> On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 12:52:31PM -0500, Aaron Griffin wrote:
> > On 5/9/07, Jason Chu <jason at archlinux.org> wrote:
> > > On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 10:42:12AM -0500, Aaron Griffin wrote:
> > > > On 5/9/07, Jason Chu <jason at archlinux.org> wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 04:54:43PM +0200, Tobias Powalowski wrote:
> > > > > > Am Mittwoch, 9. Mai 2007 schrieb Jason Chu:
> > > > > > > On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 10:30:59PM +0200, Tobias Powalowski wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi
> > > > > > > > something is really going wrong at the moment.
> > > > > > > > People claim for having other interests or not time for doing the
> > > > > > > > packaging work.
> > > > > > > > I start here only with [current] first.
> > > > > > > > Jan quit doing maintenance of important parts of our distro and probably
> > > > > > > > also of doing quite some update tirades through current.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Let me stress this, from my point of view Jan and me did the most
> > > > > > > > [current] updates the last weeks, even if we didn't use the software for
> > > > > > > > our own stuff, correct me if im wrong.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We have inactive package maintainers, no doubt.
> > > > > > > > Judd, Dorphell, Aurelien, Gregor, Woody, Arjan
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It's time to cleanup [current].
> > > > > > > > Orphan all packages of Judd, Dorphell, Aurelien, Gregor
> > > > > > > > 1 week of time to grab what packages you wanna have.
> > > > > > > > Keep in mind it's your job then to test and ensure that the package
> > > > > > > > works! Please one of the enablers do this, or give me the permission to
> > > > > > > > orphan them.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is it possible to have a step before this one that's not as disruptive?
> > > > > > > This will create a lot of orphans very quickly.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jason
> > > > > > Well that way you see quickly who wants to  take packages and which ones need
> > > > > > maintainers, im sick of browsing judds and dorphells dashboard to find the
> > > > > > flagged ones, there are also some that are not outdated at all.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > greetings
> > > > > > tpowa
> > > > >
> > > > > I was just thinking there might be a few packages that each of the
> > > > > developers (mostly Judd) wants to hang on to.  If you orphan all of them,
> > > > > then they'll have to snatch them back up again.
> > > >
> > > > They could always ask.  Besides, I don't see any hurt here besides the
> > > > false pride that comes with single-ownership of a package ("that's MY
> > > > package").
> > >
> > > Alright, I conceed.  Let's do this thing!
> >
> > Jason, can you take this task on? I want to
> > a) figure out a solution to the pacman upgrade issue
> > b) deal with the package cleanup
> > So I don't have huge amounts of time to spare at the moment.
>
> I am also lacking in time.  Can you explain the pacman upgrade issue a
> little better (there was a bug report about it at one point, right?)?
>
> I will make sure something gets done, but I doubt I'll be the one to do it.

Ok, so I've orphaned all of dorphell's and aurelien's  packages based
on discussion here and earlier threads about "who is active".

I don't really want to force-orphan judd's packages, but if there is
something someone really wants, I'll do swap it over to them.

So right now we have a _lot_ of orphans (627 at the time of this
writing).  Here's what I'd like you all to do:

Go through the orphan list and adopt anything you think is important
and/or what you use.  If you see a package that you know is useless or
just doesn't belong in extra, please add it to the Package Cleanup
wiki page [1].  I *will* be doing cleanup based on sentiment there
this weekend.  I'd highly suggest that if any one of you guys takes
issue with any of that cleanup, you bring it up.

In addition, I'm going to scan through all out packages and find
"stand alone" ones - or "leaf packages" in Jason-speak, heh - this
will be a quick and dirty way to remove some of these extra (and
possibly useless) libs we have just laying around in there.

Let me know if you have any problems with this - I'm not against doing
things differently, this just seems to be the consensus at the current
time.

Thanks,
Aaron


[1] http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Package_Cleanup