[arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade

[Tobias Powalowski]

Am Sonntag 31 August 2008 schrieb Aaron Griffin:
> On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin at gmail.com> 
wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 5:23 PM, Tobias Powalowski <t.powa at gmx.de> wrote:
> >> Am Sonntag 31 August 2008 schrieb Aaron Griffin:
> >>> On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 4:28 AM, Xavier <shiningxc at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 1:45 AM, Aaron Griffin
> >>> > <aaronmgriffin at gmail.com>
> >>
> >> wrote:
> >>> >> start_udev is still there because people were jackasses and didn't
> >>> >> update initscripts when they updated udev.... or something.. I can't
> >>> >> remember the issue, but it was people being foolish and expecting
> >>> >> their systems to boot fine.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Is everyone ok with removing it?
> >>> >
> >>> > A suggestion was made 3 times to simply add a conflict line :
> >>> > http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/11112#comment31331
> >>> >
> >>> > This is just a safety against foolish people.
> >>>
> >>> Added locally.
> >>>
> >>> Copied from arch-general (whoops, replied to the wrong list) regarding
> >>> the readme file we ship with the udev package
> >>>
> >>> > Actually, I think we should remove this file. Reloading rules and all
> >>> > that is covered by the man pages and any arch specific documentation
> >>> > should be added to a wiki page so anyone can edit it.
> >>> >
> >>> > Any issues with removing this? We don't ship custom readme's with any
> >>> > other packages that I know of.
> >>>
> >>> Additionally, do we need the migrate-udev script anymore? I sincerely
> >>> hope not. Any qualms with killing THAT off too?
> >>
> >> migrate udev creates device nodes which might be necessary, i wouldn't
> >> kill it.
> >
> > It creates device nodes that the installer also creates. It only
> > appears useful if someone is installing improperly from an existing
> > system or from an older ISO. And, hell, if we *really* want to make
> > sure these devices exist, we should add checks to rc.sysinit to create
> > them before starting udev, rather than relying on a script to do so.
>
> Done
> http://projects.archlinux.org/?p=initscripts.git;a=commitdiff;h=119b8df1fb1
>258231750309f01e747e72f382493
>
> Now migrate_udev is safe to remove. This patch makes more sense
> anyway, and covers all our bases without forcing the user to run a
> script if they screw up.
yes this patch is fine :)
greetings
tpowa
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Tobias Powalowski
Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa)
http://www.archlinux.org
tpowa at archlinux.org
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