[arch-dev-public] reimplementation of the new design

eliott eliott at cactuswax.net
Thu Jan 17 12:03:25 EST 2008

On 1/17/08, Pierre Schmitz <pierre at archlinux.de> wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2008 16:38:02 schrieb Dan McGee:
> > > I have modified the logo: I removed the hard to read TM (isn't this
> > > useless anyway)
> >
> > The ™ symbol may be used when trademark rights are claimed in relation
> > to a mark, but the mark has not been registered with the government
> > trademarks office of a particular country or jurisdiction, while the
> > (R) is used to indicate that the mark has been so registered. It is
> > not mandatory to use either symbol, although the force of convention
> > is such that the symbols are widely used around the world.
> > [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark
> >
> > Interpret that as you wish, but it seems a bit self-satisfying to me
> > to remove the TM just because you think it looks better.
> Hold on! We are speaking about Germany and not the US. The trademark thing you
> mentioned above is not valid for archlinux.de. Furthermore I will run into
> trouble if I keep the TM. Some courts have decided that using TM in Germany
> is not allowed when the mark is not registered. I know that this is different
> in the US and the court knows it, too. :-) But their decision was based on
> the fact that most people in Germany do not know about the difference between
> TM and (R); afaik in Germany you can only register a mark at the patent
> office or get some protection by using it in business.

This whole thing feels like you are pissing in my cereal.
Congratulations for making my day suck a little bit more.

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