[arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade

Aaron Griffin aaronmgriffin at gmail.com
Sat Sep 6 17:07:49 EDT 2008

On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Eric Belanger
<belanger at astro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008, Aaron Griffin wrote:
>> On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 4:28 AM, Xavier <shiningxc at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 1:45 AM, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> start_udev is still there because people were jackasses and didn't
>>>> update initscripts when they updated udev.... or something.. I can't
>>>> remember the issue, but it was people being foolish and expecting
>>>> their systems to boot fine.
>>>> Is everyone ok with removing it?
>>> A suggestion was made 3 times to simply add a conflict line :
>>> http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/11112#comment31331
>>> This is just a safety against foolish people.
>> Added locally.
>> Copied from arch-general (whoops, replied to the wrong list) regarding
>> the readme file we ship with the udev package
>>> Actually, I think we should remove this file. Reloading rules and all
>>> that is covered by the man pages and any arch specific documentation
>>> should be added to a wiki page so anyone can edit it.
>>> Any issues with removing this? We don't ship custom readme's with any
>>> other packages that I know of.
> I do ship a custom readme for qingy. At first, I was pointing people to the
> wiki article I had created. Then, I got somewhat uneasy about having to rely
> on a document that anyone can edit (qingy is a login manager so it's
> somewhat critical) even though I was receiving email notification everytime
> the article was edited. Therefore, I put the wiki info in a readme. In the
> case of udev, if you want to rely on the wiki, someone should watch the
> article edits carefully.

Well, here's the point I keep trying to make - nothing in udev,
besides a few rules, is arch-specific. The man pages are fully
suitable for all commands. Personally, I don't see this document as
critical at all. It's just a "oh, here's some more info" that seems to
make more sense in a wiki page.

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