[arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Cleaning up the base group

[wakeup]

On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 06:13:52PM +0200, Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote:
> On Saturday 30 August 2008 17:52:15 Karolina Lindqvist wrote:
> > Please not vim, since if you don't know vim, you very fast get stuck. I
> > just installed and tried vim, and first it beeped on any key pressed. Then
> > somehow it stopped, and I could not exit instead. I tried CTRL-C
> > CTRL-C...., and it said ":quit to exit", but it did not work either. So
> > "killall vim" was the way to exit. Yes, madness is the right word.
> >
> > nano is more logical. Everything you type inserts, and i has a menu at the
> > bottom always. So you can figure out he first time.
> >
> > vim is a speciality editor, since you need to know it to use it. emacs is
> > similar there. Both require you to learn it to do even simple things. And
> > when installing a system, you need something so that you can edit the files
> > to get started. For a novice there should be an editor that is
> > self-explanatory, and it appears that nano can work there.
> 
> +1
> i'm an emacs fan, but still i agree nano makes alot more sense for a base 
> system. Especially becouse it behaves logical. (e.g. ctrl+c)  which neither 
> emcas nor vim do properly.

I am a vim user but I do agree that nano is the more convenient way for
beginners.
Besides that, the version of vim installed with base is compiled with a
low fetureset and represents a different package than extra/vim, in my
opinion this is very confusing and unnecessary!

cheers wakeup
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