[arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Cleaning up the base group

[Arvid Ephraim Picciani]

On Saturday 30 August 2008 17:52:15 Karolina Lindqvist wrote:
> Please not vim, since if you don't know vim, you very fast get stuck. I
> just installed and tried vim, and first it beeped on any key pressed. Then
> somehow it stopped, and I could not exit instead. I tried CTRL-C
> CTRL-C...., and it said ":quit to exit", but it did not work either. So
> "killall vim" was the way to exit. Yes, madness is the right word.
>
> nano is more logical. Everything you type inserts, and i has a menu at the
> bottom always. So you can figure out he first time.
>
> vim is a speciality editor, since you need to know it to use it. emacs is
> similar there. Both require you to learn it to do even simple things. And
> when installing a system, you need something so that you can edit the files
> to get started. For a novice there should be an editor that is
> self-explanatory, and it appears that nano can work there.

+1
i'm an emacs fan, but still i agree nano makes alot more sense for a base 
system. Especially becouse it behaves logical. (e.g. ctrl+c)  which neither 
emcas nor vim do properly.

> But then I don't care since I anyway do:
> pacman -Rs vim nano

which in some cases requires you to correct config files before.

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best regards
Arvid Ephraim Picciani