[arch-general] conclusion: Another rant on arch way abuse and false promises

[Piyush P Kurur]

On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 10:55:22AM +0100, Arvid Picciani wrote:
> Thanks to enough input i have learned two things of this thread:
>
> 1) The problem IS upstream related. Some packages do enable
>    dbus when it is available, for the convenience of those users
>    who do not understand what dbus is and hence need it.
>
>    Archs philosophy dictates, that if the upstream is retarded,
>    so shall be the package. I used this as argument, and i shall
>    comply to it equally.
>
> 2) I am in fact the minority, not those who see linux
>    as a free windows copy. Hence i should
>     2.1) stfu and obey the will of the mass
>     2.2) find or found a distro that
>          is not based on the will of the mass
>
> The combination of 1 and 2 invalidates everything
> i have said in this thread.
>

	I think you are just reading more that what is said. Many
GNU/Linux distros and Arch and Debian in particular are definitely not
free Windows. I run Arch and Debian servers and desktops and have
never install any of the gnome/kde stuff unless asked to on
gunpoint. I use xmonad and share your dislike for hal/dbus. This
however does not justify not having a decent PnP particulary when you
want to install it for non-experts. 

To my eyes Arch has been quite snappy and minimalist, even made me
switch from Debian stable on my laptop. It is definitely far better
than the monstrosity of Ubuntu or Fedora. I dont know how you find it
otherwise.

Regards

ppk