[arch-general] Good press at distrowatch.com

[LI Ye]

A large number of packages in Ubuntu install CDs are out of date when
you install it, so a long downloading time is inevitable. Things are
similar when install archlinux, I would prefer to install packages as
little as possible since a lot of them need to download updated
versions later. This is a part of reason why I like arch's LiveCD.

2009/12/18 Allan McRae <allan at archlinux.org>:
> Ng Oon-Ee wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 2009-12-17 at 16:45 -0700, Brendan Long wrote:
>>>
>>> On 12/17/2009 04:22 PM, Ng Oon-Ee wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 2009-12-17 at 20:49 +0100, Dieter Plaetinck wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:40:03 -0700
>>>>> Brendan Long <korin43 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Isn't the Arch installer always graphical, with a menu and stuff?
>>>>>> Just because you use your keyboard instead of a mouse and it doesn't
>>>>>> use X doesn't really make it any less user-friendly does it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> no. it can also do fully automated installations.
>>>>>
>>>>> but it's a quite recent feature so I don't blame anyone for not knowing
>>>>> it.  (take my previous reactions with a grain of salt and some humor ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Dieter
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It does fully automated? Haven't looked at the installer since
>>>> installing (go figure).
>>>>
>>>> Ubuntu's installer goes much faster though, if the benchmark is 'to a
>>>> working gnome system', especially for those of us with slow internet
>>>> connections who aren't able to download half a Gb here and there at the
>>>> snap of a finger. Nothing to do with the point-and-click, more about the
>>>> fact that with Arch you do have to download pretty big files, and
>>>> multiple times (sort of like, install xorg and related packages,
>>>> wait.... configure, install alsa/sound related packages, wait...
>>>> configure)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> The downloading big packages step isn't any better with Ubuntu, you just
>>> get to wait until after the installation is over and then install a huge
>>> number of updates -- a problem that would be much worse if Ubuntu ever
>>> updated anything.
>>
>> I don't disagree fully, but with Ubuntu you get somthing that works at a
>> lower version while waiting for the download, while with Arch you get to
>> wait for the download first.
>>
>
> This is not a particularly good comparison.  With Ubuntu, you download all
> the software with the install CD...
>
>



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LI Ye
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School of Information Science and Engineering
Southeast University, P.R. China
liye at seu.edu.cn