[arch-general] Koffice help won't work in kde3 - Any suggestions?

David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. drankinatty at suddenlinkmail.com
Fri May 29 00:17:52 EDT 2009

On or about Sunday 24 May 2009 at approximately 12:19:25 ludovic coues 
> As far as I know, Koffice has never reach the stable stage a the
> moment. Maybe cause dev have jump from RC to "working on KDE4
> version".
> So I don't know if you will found any stable koffice apps for KDE3.
> Like Grigorios Bouzakis have said, I guess it's time for an upgrade to
> KDE4. I'm using it atm, and I have no trouble. I've just no kde
> graphical tools for network.
> But for someone editing his /etc/group file by hand with vim in place
> of vigr, I think it's not a problem ;-)

	You are right, it is time for an upgrade (kicking and screaming) to kde4. I'm 
just hesitant about the time involved to write/research all the bugs related 
to disappearing widgets and plasmoids. I have had 2 prior kde 4 installs 
(4.01 on openSuSE 11.0 and 4.1 on openSuSE 11.1) both were disasters at best. 
But they were the source of some rather "unique" screenshots:


	(just think through what it took to pull that screenshot off ;-)

	But with support waning for kde3 and with app development for kde3 all but 
extinct, the inevitable looms on the horizon. The real killer, and it is also 
the real killer for Arch on my laptop, is the lack of a fglrx driver. 
Currently with kde3 on openSuSE 11.0, I have the last good fglrx driver for 
my hardware. With the advent of xorg 7.4 in kde4, all fglrx drivers 
subsequent to Sept. 08 haven't worked on my box (Radeon X1200).

	I'm writing this from Arch on my laptop with the radeonhd driver and I keep 
having to lift my left hand up off the palm rest to keep it from burning. (No 
shit, it's HOT) Downclocking in the radeonhd driver and remaining powerdown 
of unused portions of the gpu is getting better, but it can't compare to the 
downclocking/powerdown of the fglrx driver. With the fglrx driver, my laptop 
stays cool and it is usable. Without it, I'm going to need to glue 1/4 inch 
neoprene pad to the palm rest, or wear gloves, to be able to use it.

	That is even with my gpu manually downclocked in my xorg.conf to roughly 30% 
of its normal clock speed (400MHz) with:

  Option       "ForceLowPowerMode"
  Option       "LowPowerModeEngineClock" "140000"

	Enough of the rambling, I'll give kde4 a go. Last question, which is the best 
way to install it? kdemod or the default kde4 from the Arch repos.

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