[arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit - tone it down

[Heiko Baums]

Am Sat, 30 Jan 2010 12:48:33 +0100
schrieb Joerg.Schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling):

> Let me give some basic explanations:
> 
> In German we have the word "Streitkultur", there is no equlvalent in
> English - guess why...

And the word "Streitkultur" is the biggest misnomer ("Unwort") ever.
That's typically German. Look e.g. at German forums and English forums.
English forums are usually much friendlier and much more competent. In
German forums the most given answer without giving the answer to the
asked question is: "Use the search function." And if someone asks a
question he first has to apologize with a bad conscience that he hasn't
found anything with the search function and that one may excuse it if
his question was already posted.

In English forums you usually get the answer you have asked for. The
search function is mentioned only in exceptional cases and in a
sub-clause.

And if it's really your intention to argue (streiten) then I don't know
if this is the right attitude. Discussing is much better and effective
than arguing.

I mean I assume that you have a big technical knowledge. Otherwise you
wouldn't be able to write such a program and build such an Open Solaris
LiveCD. But I also can understand that some people feel being attacked
by you. On the other hand I can understand that you like to see
cdrtools in the repo instead of cdrkit since it is your and the
original software. And I'd also vote for switching from cdrkit to
cdrtools in the repos even if I generally don't mind with which program
I burn my CDs as long as the CDs are burned correctly.

> In Germany, it is possible to have a technically based discussion
> without attacking the other people. If you try to have the same using
> the English language, people often claim that they have been
> personally attacked and personally attack other people although they
> did reply on a text that clearly does not contain any personal attack.

No, it's usually exactly vice versa. If people claim that they have
been personally attacked they either have been personally attacked or
it's due to the language knowledge of the foreign speaker.

> I am not personally atacking people and I hope that some people here
> learn Streitkultur.

I hope not. And I'm also German, but I hate the word "Streitkultur".

Greetings,
Heiko