[arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit - tone it down

[Allan McRae]

On 30/01/10 23:56, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> It would help a lot of you first try to understand what happened. A person
> did make a claim about an alleged problem without giving any proof for his
> claims. I asked him kindly to give enough information so in case there really
> was a problem, I am able to explain where it is located.

Given where this part of the thread started, I assume this is about the 
message from Steve Holmes claiming he had issues with cdrtools in the 
past.  That makes your definition of asking "kindly" quite weird. 
Calling a persons statements "obviously nonsense" does not sound kind to 
me.  Especially when he said the bug was "several years ago".  That is a 
similar time to when cdrkit was forked and you claim that to be full of 
bugs.  It is entirely plausible that one of the large number of bugs you 
fixed since that split is what he hit when he tried a long time ago.  To 
call it "obvious nonsense" implies to me that you really think there 
were no bugs in cdrtools back when it was forked and so cdrkit should be 
bug free.  Or were you just calling it nonsense because someone said 
something bad about your code?

I'm surprised you have not sat back and thought why so many threads on 
mailing lists or bug trackers for various distributions end up with 
people being quite annoyed at you.  You do really come off in a very 
aggressively defensive fashion (yeah, yeah, English speakers and their 
lack of Streitkultur....) and that does very little to entreat people to 
your cause.  This is probably the single biggest hurdle for people 
including your software in their distro, because they already have a bad 
impression of you and would rather not deal with you if ever they get a 
bug report for your code.

As with all Arch development, a very long winded mailing list thread - 
150+ messages and counting - will not decide what becomes part of the 
distribution. If it is ever decided for Arch to distribute cdrtools, it 
will be very much in spite of you and your attitude.

Allan