[arch-general] [arch-dev-public] dropping flashplugin x86_64

[Caleb Cushing]

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Ray Rashif <schivmeister at gmail.com> wrote:
> I simply couldn't get the same elements with the same ease in time,
> and thus failed to offer a presentation. They decided to stick with
> Flash, but I kept the multimedia tools within the open-source domain
> for post-production (simply because they couldn't care less and just
> needed the end-result). Well, the project is on hold for now so I'll
> see what kind of progress WebM/HTML5 has made up to this point.

yeah that sounds about right.

as of right now I don't think <video> is ready. however I'm all for
many of the other improvements coming in html5 and I wish people would
focus on rolling those out.

Again, I don't care if something is open source if it doesn't work at
the same level. You can claim security all you want... but plenty of
bugs security and not to be had in all software.

I tried html5 again on youtube, my video took several minutes to load
compared to flash which works nearly instantly.Given since I'm on
chromium 5 I don't think it was a webm video... so that may matter...
but if this is what html5 is going to be like... not sure I want it.

as far as mplayer-plugin settings... if I have to spend time
configuring it to make it work decently then it's too much work, I
don't have to do that with flash.

In any sense I think flash works well when you use it in the right
scenario's, html5 etc work well when used in their right scenarios.
Don't use flash for a slideshow. Don't try to use js/canvas for a game
it's just not their yet. WebM isn't ready to replace flash for video
though it may be some day.

If you want to blame the problems of the internet somewhere blame them
on IE... and maybe soon firefox, who's standards adoption is slowing
down to where IE is catching up. What we need is standards support,
and maybe some additions to the standards. I'd love to use all the
http methods when sending forms, I'd love to be able to use ESI's in
browsers too (Imagine if you could cache more of a page). I'd love for
js not to be obnoxiously abused like flash is (if your site doesn't
work without js it better have a good reason, I hate enabling js to
read a blog or coment on it).

flash will die when it's no longer needed or no longer provides
advantages. That time hasn't come yet.
-- 
Caleb Cushing

http://xenoterracide.blogspot.com