[arch-general] Python 3 Rationale?

C Anthony Risinger anthony at extof.me
Wed Oct 20 10:03:51 EDT 2010


On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Hilton Medeiros
<medeiros.hilton at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 04:31:17 +0000 (UTC)
> Mithrandir <mithrandiragain at lavabit.com> wrote:
>
>> Max Countryman <maxc <at> me.com> writes:
>>
>> >
>> > > I failed to find a reference, but I seem to remember the Python
>> > > team
>> deciding at some point that they
>> > intended to keep the name "python" for the Python 2.X binaries
>> > perpetually,
>> and require Python 3.X to be
>> > invoked as "python3". Arch might be alone in making this change, and
>> inconsistent with other Python distributions.
>> > > EDIT: I can't find a conclusive decision but here is one
>> > > discussion on the
>> subject:
>> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-3000/2008-February/0...
>> >
>> > There is any interesting conversation taking place over at Hacker
>> > News:
>> http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1808840
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> Ha ha! We posted at virtually the same time! (Or not...) :D
>>
>
> HackerNews, Slashdot, ...:
> - Someone post an announcement with 10 lines;
> - They read it (or not) and think that that is all the information
>  behind the story;
> - They furiously start typing the first thing that pops in their mind;
> - By the time you (Mithrandir, in this case) posted a more in-depth
>  post, the majority had already run to the next news.
>
> Also, the... bitching there is completely nonsense. I can't believe
> they know Linux or even python well enough judging by what they say
> about developing _difficulties_ because of this move.
>
> AFAIK, with python is easy as hell to build a local/virtual environment
> for any python version... I don't get it. Anyway, nothing to see there
> for this post, sadly.
>
> Congratulations to Allan, devs and tus for the move!

yeah, concur... ultimately i've had few problems; the couple i did
have with pyjamas/pyjs i was able to fix pretty quickly.

it's amusing sensing the hostility of some comments around the net;
personally it just seems like the same old same old... following
upstream.

i like the python2.7, python2, python3.1, python3, etc, scheme... i
think this makes it very easy for developers to select the specific
interpreter they need, if any.  i hope this trend becomes/is defacto.
if you are just running `python`, you should be prepared for the
environment ambiguity it entails.

C Anthony


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