[arch-general] libgsf update

[Myra Nelson]

On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 17:39, Ionut Biru <ibiru at archlinux.org> wrote:

> On 12/18/2011 07:04 PM, Myra Nelson wrote:
> >>> I realize I can complete the update by pacman -Suf or pacman -Rdd
> >>> libgsf-gnome then install the libgsf update but would think this would
> be
> >>> handled by an install file included with the package. I would prefer
> not
> >> to
> >>> bork my box so I thought I would ask first for a change.
> >>>
> >>
> >> now, why do you think that -f will solve every problem? -f is not for
> >> forcing updates when dependencies are not met!
> >>
> >> Stop using -f.
> >>> Thanks for your assistance.
> >>>
> >>> Myra
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Ionuț
> >>
> > Thats's why I didn't use -f and have quit using -f, why I don't think it
> > will solve every problem, why I ask for the proper procedure before I
> > borked my box, and why I asked about it being taken care of by an install
> > file. Lately I've seen several "user intervention needed" news postings
> and
> > assumed this might be one of those cases. I intentionally pointed out the
> > wrong way to do this, sorry if I offended you.
> >
> > Myra
> >
>
> No offense taken and I hope that my reply wasn't offensive.
>
> I was only curios since I see a lot of our users using -f along with -Su
> and with -Sdd lately and maybe our manual is not clear enough.
>
> As for original problem, nothing in our repository depended on that
> package and there wasn't any way to have it installed. But my logic
> seems to be faulty.
>
> --
> Ionuț
>
> No offense taken, I just tend to shoot first and ask questions later. Your
logic is not necessarily faulty. Mine may be an edge case from me
destroying my pacman database and having to rebuild it about one year ago.
I'm still finding extra packages that I don't need installed, remains of
previously installed packges that don't show up with pacq, and if I run
pacman -Qdt and used the output to uninstall orphan packages I'm not sure
anything would work. I really need to do a complete reinstall but I've got
my box setup the way I like and laziness is also a factor.

The only time I've used -Rdd is when I was using nvida packages from the
AUR and had to remove everything to fix my screwup. I think to many people
take the easiest way out when trying to fix something and -f solves the
immediate problem. It took me awhile when I moved to Arch from crunchbang
to get used to the power available with Arch and how to use it properly.
The proper use is the key.

Clarifying the manual might help. If you don't mind I'll take a look at the
man page and see if I can make the necessary changes. I also wonder about
adding a message similar to the one that comes up when you try to run
pacman without su or sudo [ error: you cannot perform this operation unless
you are root. ] like [ warning: this option should only be used in extreme
cases and/or if you know what you're doing ].

Thanks for your assistance.

Myra

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