[arch-general] libgsf update

[Myra Nelson]

On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 18:46, Myra Nelson <myra.nelson at hughes.net> wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 17:39, Ionut Biru <ibiru at archlinux.org> wrote:
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>> On 12/18/2011 07:04 PM, Myra Nelson wrote:
>> >>> I realize I can complete the update by pacman -Suf or pacman -Rdd
>> >>> libgsf-gnome then install the libgsf update but would think this
>> would be
>> >>> handled by an install file included with the package. I would prefer
>> not
>> >> to
>> >>> bork my box so I thought I would ask first for a change.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> now, why do you think that -f will solve every problem? -f is not for
>> >> forcing updates when dependencies are not met!
>> >>
>> >> Stop using -f.
>> >>> Thanks for your assistance.
>> >>>
>> >>> Myra
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Ionuț
>> >>
>> > Thats's why I didn't use -f and have quit using -f, why I don't think it
>> > will solve every problem, why I ask for the proper procedure before I
>> > borked my box, and why I asked about it being taken care of by an
>> install
>> > file. Lately I've seen several "user intervention needed" news postings
>> and
>> > assumed this might be one of those cases. I intentionally pointed out
>> the
>> > wrong way to do this, sorry if I offended you.
>> >
>> > Myra
>> >
>>
>> No offense taken and I hope that my reply wasn't offensive.
>>
>> I was only curios since I see a lot of our users using -f along with -Su
>> and with -Sdd lately and maybe our manual is not clear enough.
>>
>> As for original problem, nothing in our repository depended on that
>> package and there wasn't any way to have it installed. But my logic
>> seems to be faulty.
>>
>> --
>> Ionuț
>>
>> No offense taken, I just tend to shoot first and ask questions later.
> Your logic is not necessarily faulty. Mine may be an edge case from me
> destroying my pacman database and having to rebuild it about one year ago.
> I'm still finding extra packages that I don't need installed, remains of
> previously installed packges that don't show up with pacq, and if I run
> pacman -Qdt and used the output to uninstall orphan packages I'm not sure
> anything would work. I really need to do a complete reinstall but I've got
> my box setup the way I like and laziness is also a factor.
>
> The only time I've used -Rdd is when I was using nvida packages from the
> AUR and had to remove everything to fix my screwup. I think to many people
> take the easiest way out when trying to fix something and -f solves the
> immediate problem. It took me awhile when I moved to Arch from crunchbang
> to get used to the power available with Arch and how to use it properly.
> The proper use is the key.
>
> Clarifying the manual might help. If you don't mind I'll take a look at
> the man page and see if I can make the necessary changes. I also wonder
> about adding a message similar to the one that comes up when you try to run
> pacman without su or sudo [ error: you cannot perform this operation unless
> you are root. ] like [ warning: this option should only be used in extreme
> cases and/or if you know what you're doing ].
>
> Thanks for your assistance.
>
> Myra
>
> --
> Life's fun when your sick and psychotic!
>


Or possibly an admonition to read the recently updated wiki pages that
in-duh-viduals ( I'm guility ) don't do regularly.

Myra
-- 
Life's fun when your sick and psychotic!