[arch-general] Is there a clean solution to get completely rid of Pulseaudio?
C Anthony Risinger
anthony at xtfx.me
Sat Dec 24 02:49:38 EST 2011
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 1:08 AM, Ralf Madorf <ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net> wrote:
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> [...] what would be the difference [...] For Debian I [...]
Ralf ...
your thread has managed to generate 65+ responses in 24 hours -- yet
you have not actually encountered a problem, nor produced anything
concrete to work with -- and thus far you've only provided conjectures
regarding PulseAudio, and vagaries surrounding your vision of an
ideal/niche setup.
last night i would have been the first to reply to your message, as i
was attempting to curtail the resultant flood i knew would undoubtedly
ensue, (alas, writing a page of text on a mobile takes forever) ... i
provided all the details needed to understand the decisions made, as
many others subsequently did ... one way or another.
to reiterate, packages that *can* use PA will pull in libpulse to
satisfy those of us that *want* to use what has become a fine sound
server. if a package *needs* PA to function _as intended upstream_,
it will pull pulseaudio. GDM is the latter. if you do not like this,
simply use a different login manager -- problem solved -- or take to
fight to the next level, which is far from here.
you're comments RE:PA appear to be from 3rd party information,
possibly years outdated, as you have not provided any indication
suggesting you've encountered an issue, first-hand, ascribable to
PulseAudio . methinks if you scan your system, you will likely find
oodles of "stuff" you "don't need" ... package managers are limited in
flexibility, and thus can only provide coarse/best-guess dependency
resolutions. the decisions made by Arch developers provide you
maximum flexibility, within said limits, and are likely beyond what
several other distros would afford you.
i thoroughly recommend immediately and permanently terminating this
line of conversation, and returning when you have encountered a
_concrete_ problem by which PulseAudio is [seemingly] causing an
immediate, and diagnosable, issue, and you are unable to solve it via
the usuals (eg. wiki, bbs, GOOG) ... else, i suspect your ability to
procure future solutions from this list, and your peers, will be
hampered by the impression being formed right now.
take it or leave it :-)
--
C Anthony
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