[arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Vi package
Jelle van der Waa
jelle at vdwaa.nl
Thu Feb 10 17:03:51 EST 2011
On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 22:56 +0100, Marek Otahal wrote:
> On Thursday 10 of February 2011 17:59:26 Pierre Schmitz wrote:
> > On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:52:16 +0100, Jan de Groot wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 17:24 +0200, Ionuț Bîru wrote:
> > >> we did had vi being a stripped vim package in the past. We got rid of
> > >> it
> > >> because upstream vim started to not helping arch users because "it
> > >> was
> > >> broken". That impression was given by our users who didn't understand
> > >> that python and other crap that vim support is in vim package and not
> > >> in vi.
> > >>
> > >> now the same situation is now. Some users don't understand that vi is
> > >> nvi and what they want is in vim.
> > >
> > > I don't think we should go back to a fucked vim package with /etc/virc
> > > like we had it in the past. We switched from that to nvi, which fucked
> > > up files if they contained unicode stuff (it would just segfault in the
> > > middle of a save operation, leaving you with a broken file).
> > > After that, we decided to go for busybox, which works fairly well as vi,
> > > is maintained, but doesn't do anything that looks like vim.
> > >
> > > IMHO vi is totally useless on most systems. I prefer to uninstall it and
> > > do ln -s vim /usr/bin/vi instead. Users who complain about vi being too
> > > limited should do that too.
> > I wonder the same. I cannot imagine why anybody would want to use vi.
> > Personally I would not mind if nano was the only interactive editor in
> > [core]. But keeping the current busybox vi is also fine.
> first, I apologize for off-topic, but i seek help on vim.
> Reading this thread I decided I want to learn how to get more from vim, so I
> started with vimtutor.
> So far I ran into two issues that were incompatible with the vimtutor,
> *) 7G moves you to line 7, I had to do 7gg instead
> *) "
> Lesson 5.3: SELECTING TEXT TO WRITE
> ** To save part of the file, type v motion :w FILENAME **
> 1. Move the cursor to this line.
> 2. Press v and move the cursor to the fifth item below. Notice that the
> text is highlighted.
> 3. Press the : character. At the bottom of the screen :'<,'> will
> 4. Type w TEST , where TEST is a filename that does not exist yet. Verify
> that you see :'<,'>w TEST before you press <ENTER>.
> 5. Vim will write the selected lines to the file TEST. Use :!dir or !ls
> to see it. Do not remove it yet! We will use it in the next lesson.
> "...this doesn't work for me, I switch to visual mode, after : the '<,'>
> doesn't appear though.
> Can somebody enlighten me, is this behavior
> -some config in vim -- where and how can I set it?
> -mistakes in the tutorial (could be updated)
> -mistakes in vim
> Many thanks, mark the vimmer :)
This is not the place for vim help, please consult #vim on irc and
Jelle van der Waa
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