[arch-general] When will Arch switch to Upstart

Rogutės Sparnuotos rogutes at googlemail.com
Fri Jan 21 09:38:33 EST 2011

Karol Babioch (2011-01-21 13:13):
> Am 20.01.2011 14:18, schrieb Tom Gundersen:>
> > Any suggestions about what might make the installation easier? At the
> > moment you have to install some packages from AUR and add a line to
> > your GRUB file.
> I appreciate your work (and anyone who has helped you out a bit), but to
> be honest its not the way I would think of an ideal solution :(. Right
> now you have to install a few packages from AUR and run it in parallel
> with sysvinit. I don't even know if there is a way to remove sysvinit,
> but I would guess this wouldn't be easy.

It is quite simple:
1. Ensure that you know how to boot without /sbin/init
2. Run pacman -R sysvinit initscripts

I have done this one year ago and am still alive.

> Furthermore units are provided by a single package. I don't think thats
> a good way, as I get a whole bunch of units I actually don't need.
> All in all, its relatively easy to install systemd, because of the work
> you and others have done, but it doesn't follow the KISS principle at all.
> I guess, to make it really affordable it must be declared as official,
> so the packages itself contain the units, replacing the sysvinit.

Why would you reply to a thread about Upstart to talk about systemd?
Anyway, systemd is far from done. Run from AUR if you need and wait until
it is at least stable and doesn't have dependencies like

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