[arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Migration to systemd

[Kevin Chadwick]

> I already found another feature in
> systemd that people always wanted for initscripts, but was too hard to
> implement,

After posting so much pointless and wrong text aside from systemd can
do some things a little quicker which we all know. Why haven't you told
us this feature which would be worth posting.


> You cannot remove dbus from the Linux ecosystem. It's in there,
> everything uses it. Period.
> 

Absolute rubbish. Though it is certainly over used and depended upon.
Like firefox having it as a compilation rather than runtime option
making firefox harder to chroot well. That's quite relevent to
systemdif you think about it.

> If you don't use it now, then you don't have bluetooth and you need root
> privileges to (u)mount removable devices. And lots more.
> 

More rubbish

> Most importantly, dbus has been stable for years. It hasn't crashed for
> me in years.
> 

Despite dbus being designed with security in mind, securing dbus even
with selinux has proved difficult due to back channels etc.. IPC is
even more used on Windows causing major security and other problems.

Can I reiterate and unfortunately have to get personal. Despite the FUD
lennart has made about systemd being required in the future, that
simply isn't going to happen. At best he will make swathes of code
difficult to use on some systems and give headaches to major
distributions. The biggest of which has just moved to xfce by default
from Gnome which is no longer the most used GUI. It seems it is often
the questionable code that will require systemd and polkit so far too.

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'Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work
together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a
universal interface'

(Doug McIlroy)
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