[arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Migration to systemd

Denis A. Altoé Falqueto denisfalqueto at gmail.com
Thu Aug 16 16:50:10 EDT 2012


On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Felipe Contreras
<felipe.contreras at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto
> <denisfalqueto at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Felipe Contreras
>> <felipe.contreras at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Brandon Watkins <bwat47 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> A big switch like this will have problems regardless of when you do it. Its
>>>> best to do it soon and get the teething issues over with. For most people
>>>> systemd seems to work fine and is production ready (also evidenced by the
>>>> fact that some other major distros have already made the switch some time
>>>> ago).
>>>
>>> It is best to do it sooner? Why? In order to maximize the breakage?
>>
>> You see, that's the attitude that really enfuriates me. Why post in
>> such a provocative tone? He gave his arguments, you didn't reply.
>
> No, he didn't, he made a totally unsupported claim with no evidence,
> and not even an argument "Its
> best to do it soon and get the teething issues over with.".
>
> The rest of his arguments are irrelevant, and in order to tackle them
> one would need to understand that it's impossible to prove a negative,
> but you seem to be unable to understand that, so I'm not going to try
> to explain it.
>
> But there's no point in even trying, because even if we assume he is
> right for the sake of argument (systemd is quite ready (it's not)),
> that still doesn't invalidate the first argument: the later the move,
> the safer.
>
>> You
>> just bitch cause you don't want to spend the time to fix your
>> problems. I sent you some hints to debug systemd boot process and you
>> ignored it. And now I will send you another one (see, I'm in a
>> pacifist mood today):
>>
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Systemd_problems
>>
>> I've found it in the bottom of the Arch wiki page for systemd. So,
>> it's not hard to find information on how to solve problems.
>
> Please. Not even Lennart was able to help me with my problem. Stop
> assuming there was/is an easy solution.

Yeah, I'm a realy stupid guy, trying to help a very smart one. I
should know better.

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