[arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Migration to systemd

[Nicholas MIller]

On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto <
denisfalqueto at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Felipe Contreras
>  <felipe.contreras at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto
> > <denisfalqueto at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Felipe Contreras
> >> <felipe.contreras at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Brandon Watkins <bwat47 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> A big switch like this will have problems regardless of when you do
> it. Its
> >>>> best to do it soon and get the teething issues over with. For most
> people
> >>>> systemd seems to work fine and is production ready (also evidenced by
> the
> >>>> fact that some other major distros have already made the switch some
> time
> >>>> ago).
> >>>
> >>> It is best to do it sooner? Why? In order to maximize the breakage?
> >>
> >> You see, that's the attitude that really enfuriates me. Why post in
> >> such a provocative tone? He gave his arguments, you didn't reply.
> >
> > No, he didn't, he made a totally unsupported claim with no evidence,
> > and not even an argument "Its
> > best to do it soon and get the teething issues over with.".
> >
> > The rest of his arguments are irrelevant, and in order to tackle them
> > one would need to understand that it's impossible to prove a negative,
> > but you seem to be unable to understand that, so I'm not going to try
> > to explain it.
> >
> > But there's no point in even trying, because even if we assume he is
> > right for the sake of argument (systemd is quite ready (it's not)),
> > that still doesn't invalidate the first argument: the later the move,
> > the safer.
> >
> >> You
> >> just bitch cause you don't want to spend the time to fix your
> >> problems. I sent you some hints to debug systemd boot process and you
> >> ignored it. And now I will send you another one (see, I'm in a
> >> pacifist mood today):
> >>
> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Systemd_problems
> >>
> >> I've found it in the bottom of the Arch wiki page for systemd. So,
> >> it's not hard to find information on how to solve problems.
> >
> > Please. Not even Lennart was able to help me with my problem. Stop
> > assuming there was/is an easy solution.
>
> Yeah, I'm a realy stupid guy, trying to help a very smart one. I
> should know better.
>
>

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