[arch-general] change in mount behaviour?

Leonid Isaev lisaev at umail.iu.edu
Sat Jan 28 16:41:06 EST 2012


On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 20:40:51 +0000
Fons Adriaensen <fons at linuxaudio.org> wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 06:46:20PM +0100, Tom Gundersen wrote:
>  
> > There has been a lot of changes lately, this is true. However, a lot
> > of effort has been put into reaching consensus between the distros and
> > the relevant upstream projects. Much more so now than before.
> > 
> > It is my impression that a majority of the ideas have originated in
> > Debian and Fedora, but I don't really care who came up with what idea
> > as long as we end up with the best ideas in the end (and possibly more
> > importantly, that we all end up with the same ideas). As far as I can
> > tell the different changes are receiving a lot of scrutiny within the
> > different distros before being adopted (as one would expect); and
> > overall we are all moving in the same direction.
> 
> One consequence of all these changes is dependency creep. Just one
> example: emacs depends (via gconf) on consolekit. I've been using
> emacs for > 15 years or so, and I've never seen it depend on PAM or
> Kerberos, SSH authentication subsystems, etc. It has no reason to
> depend on consolekit. And if it does by transitivity that should
> make its maintainers think twice.

http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/NEWS.23.2
Care to file a bug?

> 
> Allowing such a dependeny to exist is *bad engineering*. If this
> trend continues it will end with everything depending on everything.
> Which means there is no more choice. I know it's not and Arch thing,
> but still this is cause for concern.
> 
> Ciao,
> 



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