[arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

[逸冰欧阳]

I agree with you, guys. Although I come from China.
On Jul 1, 2012 11:24 PM, "BlissSam" <m13253 at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
> I am a Simplified Chinese user with 2 years of arch experience
> (of course I am not joining the community),
> but I agree with your opinion.
> I don't want ArchLinux to repeat the way that Red Hat used to go (Red Hat
> used to call Taiwan 'Taiwan, province of China', and many people refused to
> use it --according to Wikipedia).
> I think that just simply calling it 'Taiwan' is okay. We don't care what
> the government is saying (especially, P.R. China government may be angry,
> but who cares?). What we want to do is to provide convenience to the user,
> is it?
>
> So I agree with you and I really hope the community to change its name
> back to Taiwan (as I know, the name is used to be 'Taiwan' in the past
> years)
>
> The fact is we don't want to talk a lot about political issues, but
> changing its name to Taiwan is a good idea.
>
>
> Sam
>
>
> ----------------------------------------
> > From: itszero at gmail.com
> > Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 23:08:07 +0800
> > To: arch-general at archlinux.org
> > Subject: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > First of all, I am sorry to bring political issues to here. I have
> > been using ArchLinux for years, deployed on many servers, though I'm
> > not joining the community until now. The recent changes to the
> > ArchLinux webpages (ex. Downloads, Mirror Status) is really offending
> > Taiwanese people. I would like to bring up this issue, and preferably
> > to resolve this issue.
> >
> > I have posted this message on the forum:
> > https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=144315 . The moderator
> > suggested me to post on arch-general, so here it is. :)
> > There is also a bug tracking issue submitted by other Taiwanese user
> > that I'm requesting for reopen here:
> > https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/30444
> >
> > The following text is the same as the post on forum, except a few
> > modification to make text smoother.
> >
> > The recent changes on the download page named Taiwan as Taiwan,
> > Province of China, which is not reflecting the truth that Taiwan is a
> > independent country which having its own government. I think this
> > might be caused by following the ISO-3166 country name list standard.
> > However, I don't think ISO-3166 is a good list when it comes to the
> > country name.
> >
> > Many open source communities have encountered this problem before.
> > Most of them understand that ISO-3166 is not really a neutral list
> > that we all hope for, and thus made switch to a separate maintained
> > country list. For example, FreeBSD[1], Rails[2], Debian[3]. Many big
> > commercial entities also opt not to use "Taiwan, PRC" in their country
> > list, like: Apple[4], IBM[5], also try Google, Facebook, Twitter, et
> > cetra. A possible solution might be using the country name list from
> > ICU[6].
> >
> > I believed the ArchLinux is trying to expand its user-base around the
> > world, so a neutral country name list would be the best for the
> > benefit of all of us, ArchLinux developers and users. As a Taiwanese
> > ArchLinux user, I'm really happy to see that user base of ArchLinux is
> > growing in Taiwan. Some educational institutions provide mirrors site
> > in Taiwan, Wiki localized in Traditional Chinese in the recent years.
> > I sincerely hope this issue can be resolved as soon as possible. Let's
> > keep the issue simple and not flaming it, thanks.
> >
> > References:
> >
> > [1] FreeBSD: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=138672
> > [2] Rails:
> http://www.koziarski.net/archives/2008/9/24/countries-and-controversies/
> > [3] Debian: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/04/msg00798.html
> > [4] Apple: http://www.apple.com/choose-your-country/
> > [5] IBM: http://www.ibm.com/planetwide/select/selector.html
> > [6] ICU:
> http://source.icu-project.org/repos/icu/icu/trunk/source/data/region/en.txt
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Chien-An "Zero" Cho
>