[arch-general] ConsoleKit replaced by systemd

[Ionut Biru]

On 07/10/2012 08:37 PM, Ray Kohler wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Karol Babioch <karol at babioch.de> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm about to set up a new machine and want to make use of systemd.
>> Currently I'm reading up on the topic as systemd changes quite a lot of
>> things.
>>
>> Just recently I've realized that ConsoleKit is not maintained actively
>> anymore and the focus is on systemd right now (see [1]). This is already
>> mentioned in the wiki [2].
>>
>> Unfortunately I couldn't find any statement as to whether Arch will
>> follow along with this. I'm running GNOME right now and at least have
>> two dependencies for ConsoleKit: gdm and gnome-session.
>>
>> I couldn't find anything in regard to this issue in the bug tracker, so
>> I'm wondering whether there has been some discussion over that already?
>>
>> I know there have been some discussions about systemd in the past, but
>> are there any definite plans to switch "completely" to systemd at some
>> point in the future? It seems that the package "initscripts-systemd" is
>> more or less on feature parity with "initscripts" already.
>>
>> The reason why I'm asking is that I don't think that this kind of
>> "double tracked" approach we are currently following, will work very
>> well in the long run, especially when systemd is superseding more and
>> more other packages.
>>
>> Don't get me wrong: I'm really glad about the fact that Arch Linux is
>> supporting systemd so well. By no means I want to depreciate the work
>> you guys have done so far. I do absolutely think that we have to provide
>> both solutions in order to provide a smooth upgrade path. But personally
>> I think that at some point we have to make a choice - just for the sake
>> of simplicity. Personally I would choose systemd ;).
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Karol Babioch
>>
>> [1] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/ConsoleKit/
>> [2] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ConsoleKit
> 
> ConsoleKit and systemd's logind don't provide the same API, as far as
> I know. So Arch has to wait for the upstreams of these projects (such
> as GNOME)  to re-implement the relevant functionality with logind
> instead of ConsoleKit. It's not just a build-time decision distro
> packagers get to make.
> 

Gnome 3.4 already supports systemd but as well as consolekit. Some
modules have this detection at runtime.

We prefer to keep consolekit support until we cannot support it.

-- 
Ionuț



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